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    Default 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    I have a question about my board (EP45-UD3R). I'm trying to modify my multi/fsb from 8x500 to 7.5x533, but when I do, Windows 7 64-bit RTM fails to recognize my graphics card. What's wrong with that?

    After further tinkering, I've discovered that bumping my FSB past 500MHz results in Windows 7 not recognizing my graphics card. Any idea? I know Win7 is still new, so I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a fix for this. I've already filled out an MIT form:

    Code:
    CPU = E8400
    Motherboard = EP45-UD3R
    BIOS Version = F9a
    Ram = 4GB (2x2) OCZ Gold
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio .............................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.0
    CPU Frequency ..............................: 4.00GHz
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 500
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: MANUAL
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................:5
    tRCD .............................................:5
    tRP...............................................  ..:5
    tRAS..............................................  :16
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: Auto
    tWTR..........................................: Auto
    tWR............................................: Auto
    tRFC...........................................: Auto
    tRTP...........................................: Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: Auto
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................................:1.268
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: 1.32
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:1.57
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........: .810
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.34
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............:.75
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:Auto
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:2.00
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:Auto
    That's my current MIT setting for running 500x8. When I modify it to 533x7.5 to run my memory stock, Windows 7 RTM refuses to recognize a GPU. Any ideas?

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    Default Re: 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    You've posted an abbreviated bios template.
    Have you overclocked your video card?
    Post your current stable bios settings using this generic bios template.
    Your MCH Core voltage is awfully high. 1.22 - 1.26 volts is usually all that this needed with 2x2GB of memory. At 500MHz, you might need 1.28 volts.

    To best help you, you should:
    1) List your system components in your signature.
    --> User CP tab (upper left corner of web page)
    --> select Edit Signature
    --> enter your hardware components (brand, model, etc.)
    --> include your bios version
    --> preview
    --> Save when complete
    Be sure to include your bios version, motherboard version, power supply, cpu heatsink/fan setup and the model numbers of all components.

    2) Link to your ram's full specifications.

    3) Fill in the generic bios template with your bios settings.
    --> Fill in Auto where appropriate.
    --> Update "??" values with what is displayed in your bios.
    For EP4x motherboards, using either of these EP43/45 bios templates.

    4) Include a screenshot that displays:
    Memset using the SPD and ">>" tabs
    cpu-z CPU and Mainboard screens (several instances can be run at the same time)
    EasyTune6 --> TUNER tab --> ADVANCE tab --> VOLTAGE tab (only the Voltage tab is needed)
    CoreTemp screen [for your cpu's VID (Voltage ID)]

    Links for these programs are in the Latest Overclocking Programs, System Info, Benchmarking, & Stability Tools thread.
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    Default Re: 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    Full EP45 Bios Template:

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.0
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 500Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000MHz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................7
    tRP'...........................................7
    tRAS..........................................19
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................AUTO
    tWTR..........................................AUTO
    tWR............................................AUTO
    tRFC...........................................AUTO
    tRTP...........................................AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................AUTO
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.268v
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:1.32v
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:1.500v 
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.768v
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.32v
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: .75v
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:AUTO
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:AUTO
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............:AUTO
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    RAM Specs:
    1066MHz DDR2
    CL 5-6-6-18
    (CAS-TRCD-TRP-TRAS)
    Available in 2GB modules and 4GB Dual Channel Kits
    Unbuffered
    Gold XTC* Heatspreader
    OCZ Lifetime Warranty
    2.1 Volts
    240 Pin DIMM

    Screenshot:



    I've made a signature with my system specs, but I don't see it for some reason.
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    Default Re: 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    If you created your forum signature after your last post, the signature won't appear until your next post.

    Has your system passed extended stability tests using Prime95 or OCCT?
    If yes, which tests were run and for how long?
    What was the highest stable speed you were running with your tests?

    Many of your voltage settings are out of line.
    These are some suggested settings that should be stable:

    CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.30000V] <--- ballpark value
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.200V] <--- 1.22 - 1.24 might be needed
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.570V]

    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.240V] <--- 1.22 - 1.28 might be needed
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.740V] <--- set with VTT (Cpu Termination) = 1.20, this will change when VTT is increased

    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]

    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.10V] <--- 2.12 might be needed

    You should be able to use the rated 5-6-6-18 primary memory timings.
    Static tRead Value (tRD) = 9 or 10 should be stable, lower is better. Set the same value for both memory channels (A and B)
    Driving Strength = 1066 or OC-1200 might help with stability (for Channels A and B).
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    Default Re: 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    I was running stable with Prime95 12 hours, and LinX MAX stress for 20 runs. I actually passed those tests with 1.2v vCore a while back--I've just bumped it up to what it is now for stability. I really don't think 1.3v vCore is necessary, but if need be, I'll bump it up to that. I'll report back.

    *edit* Tried the voltage settings as suggested. Looks good so far. Gonna boot up Shattered Horizon and see where that gets me. I tried changing the driving strength to OC-1200 and that resulted in my system hanging on the beginning of POST and me going back into MIT with it telling me I had a failed overclock. Any idea about that?
    Last edited by BIGWORM; 11-10-2009 at 02:20 PM.
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    Graphics Card

    Sparkle GTX 260+ 55nm 699/1403/1105

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    WD Caviar SE16 640GB

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    Default Re: 501+ FSB = Graphics Adapter

    Driving Strength = Auto or 1066 should be fine.
    Both channels should be set to same value.
    With the new settings, are you testing with 8 x 500MHz?
    If there are any problems, post your new bios settings and the screen-shot.
    Good luck!
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
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    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
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