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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    23 minutes is no where near enough. Try 8 hours minimum.
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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    Sorry, but Wazza300 indicated that 15 minutes would be sufficient to give some indication and 23 happened to be all the time I had.

    Now that I've been running this configuration for four days, I can say that if anything my system is more prone to the sudden rebooting than before. Previously it never happened more than once every three days (and sometimes a week would go by) but it's happened so far twice in one day (hours apart) and then again just the next day.

    Again in the situation where it rebooted twice in one day, the system was idle with probably just FireFox and one other application open.

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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    I last posted about two weeks ago and haven't heard from anyone?

    As I mentioned in my previous post, I made the bios settings that wazza300 and Psycho101 suggested and if anything I seem to be having more reboots that I was having before.

    Does anyone have some idea's on how to track down the source of the problem since this does not appear to be an operating system issue?

    Thanks,

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    what bios are you using?it could be a sleep/resume or something else thats causing it to crash,did you set qpi voltage to 1.3000/ram voltage to 1.66 and manual timings? cpu voltage on normal
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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    Sorry your post had been overlooked!

    Can you please tell me your current issues again, give me your full settings and specs and I will advise back.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    what bios are you using?it could be a sleep/resume or something else thats causing it to crash,did you set qpi voltage to 1.3000/ram voltage to 1.66 and manual timings? cpu voltage on normal
    At the moment I'm using the F9h bios which was the latest when last I looked, I do see that there's now a F9l and I will update to that first chance I get.

    The qpi is currently set to 1.26 which you had indicated "1.26000 qpi should be fine to start with and see if it still crashes" in your message on the previous page so do you think I need to boost that to 1.30?

    Ram voltage is currently set to 1.64, OCZ spec calls for 1.65 (not an available option) but I've spoken to OCZ by phone (I love talking to live people) and they say that either 1.64 or 1.66 is well within tolerance for the ram that I'm using. (OCZ3X1600LV6GK)

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    its up to you you could try 1.26000 to start with if no luck try 1.30000,also i remember some other users using an ocz psu n they had crashing also,im not saying that this is the cause but its worth trying with another psu if you have a spare to try and eliminate it
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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Sorry your post had been overlooked!

    Can you please tell me your current issues again, give me your full settings and specs and I will advise back.

    Thanks!
    Thanks for getting back to me, I appreciate it!

    My hardware consists of a Gigabyte Ex58-Extreme (using the latest F9h Bios), an Intel Boxed Core I7 950, an OCZ triple channel 6 GB memory kit (OCZ3X1600LV6GK), an XFX GTX 260, an OCZ 850watt PSU (OCZ850GXSSLI), a Pioneer SATA DVD burner, a Segate 7200.12 500gb and a Western Digital 1tb WD1001FALS in a Lian-Li PC-A6010 case running Windows <nobr style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" id="itxt_nobr_2_0">Vista</nobr> x64 Ultimate.

    The problem is that at least once a week (sometimes more frequently) the system reboots for no reason, most of the time when it's idle although once in a while I'll actually be working on it. The only thing that's noted in the system log is that "The previous shutdown was unexpected".

    I've had to deal with this type of thing in Windows XP and I have gone to the "Startup and Recovery" system settings screen and unchecked "Automatically restart" and there does not appear to be a blue screen with any type of stop error message when this happens.

    As I'm sure you know the Bios has an incredible list of settings and options and here's a list of the most relevant:

    CPU Clock Ration 23X
    Intel Turbo Boost Enabled
    CPU Cores Enabled All
    CPU Multi-Threading Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt C1E Enabled
    C3/C6/C7 State Support Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor Enabled
    CPU EIST Function Enabled
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT Enabled
    Virtualization Technology Enabled
    QPI Clock Ratio Auto
    UnCore Clock Ratio Auto
    Isochronous Support Enabled
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control Enabled
    BCLK Frequency 133
    PCI Express Frequency Auto
    C.I.A.2 Disabled
    CPU Clock Drive 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew 0ps
    IOH Clock Skew 0ps
    Performance Enhance Standard
    System Memory Multiplier 12.0
    Load Line Calibration Disabled
    CPU VCore Normal / 1.1625
    QPI / VTT Voltage 1.26
    IOH Core Auto

    All memory voltages and timings are manually set to OCZ specs for this memory.

    If you look back at the previous page Wazza300 had said:
    its not advised to use auto voltages as it usually overvolts components try setting them manually as this might be causing crashes even if its passing memtests,set your ram to its rated voltage,you can set cpu voltage to normal keep c1e enabled and it will lower volts at idle,and slightly raise qpi volts to accomodate your ram timings,1.26000 qpi should be fine to start with and see if it still crashes,also try re-installing your graphic <nobr style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; color: rgb(0, 0, 255);" id="itxt_nobr_11_0">card</nobr> drivers as this might be causing it too
    After making those changes and reinstalling (actually updating the video driver with NVidia's latest release) the video driver the system seems to be slightly more unstable than before and I've experienced multiple reboots on the same day. Although there have been times when it's run for a couple days without a reboot.

    - Norm

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    Default Re: Ex58-Extreme Stability Issues

    Well here is what I suggest you use for your hardware at stock >>


    BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage


    Code:
    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36 or x44 both are fine x36 is the norm.
    Uncore Frequency ..........................  (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1, 2x +2, ect - Higher means more Vdimm often) So 24-26, with 24 being the norm (2x Ram multi)
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................133
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << 12x (12x133=1600)
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................8
    tRCD .......................................8
    tRP .........................................8
    tRAS .......................................24
    
    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
    
    
    Blank below means auto!
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................ 5-12 (Odd # values likely will fail)
    tWTP .......................................    (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................   (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... << Set 84 for now, can try lower later
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ << Set 1T
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ............................... Auto
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............  << Set this manually, this is the problem or part of it.   Try 1.25-1.4
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.14-1.24
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................  << Set 1.20-1.24
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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