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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    default is 8-8-8-24. i'll try the other settings manually, but they are all set to those values in auto, or near enough.
    voltage at 1.648 there, almost exactly the 1.65v written on the modules.
    as this Corsair dominator memory was listed as compatible with the motherboard, is it usual to have make these technical bios alterations to get it to work? system is useless at the moment.

    maybe it is bad memory, but like you said earlier it might be a faulty CPU too - or both even. anyone know of software i can use to pinpoint the problems?
    memtest86 doesn't help much.
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    try using prime95 and running blend test,always set ram volts to there rated voltage to achieve rated speed and qpi volts will need raising also, i wouldnt say its your cpu..more likely ram you could try looser timings aswell or select auto timings without xmp and use manual voltage and see if its stable
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    Prime85 blend test is good for determining memory and IMC stability from within the OS.
    another program is SuperPI, it will help you test memory stability much faster then Prime.

    for the CPU processing die, you can use a tool called Linpack.
    Some burn in software is written around linpack, like OCCT, lynx and Intel Burnin test (personal favorite)

    To know if the cpu die is healthy, run linpack once for about 10-15 passes, what you do to see if its stable is provided it actually finishes all the tests is you compare the residual norm results, they must all be character by character exact. if ones not the same as the rest or of they all aren't exact, then the processing die (or configuration for the cpu) is unstable.

    Even though these utilities are better at testing specific things, you need to have the system at an over all stable enough state to use them to test the specifics, I generally linpack then blend test, i'll use superpi for quick setting testing.

    If the systems perfectly stable you should have no problem running a linpack burn-in and a prime95 burn-in. otherwise if you have trouble or failures with either, one or the other will point you in the right direction.

    It also doesn't hurt to (slowly and carefully) check the 1366 LGA, if a z pin got bent during the initial cpu installation then it could be the cause of all your problems.
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    just tried intel burn test 2.3 - good to learn of this software, thanks. it passed 15 tests first time, all with the same number result. tried again later, and windows came up with one of those "memory address error" pop-up box next to the red circle & white "X" through it, then the system was very slow to respond to closing windows down etc.
    will try prime 95 some more - seemed to work alright for a while.

    i've also tried manually putting QPI voltage to 1.300v as suggested, hasn't helped unfortunately. on the memory profile, it says it should be QPI 1.35v - would it hurt to set it to that value? don't want to overvolt or overclock anything incase i have to send this back.
    also, it can't get the ram voltage exactly on 1.65v - no setting in bios for me to do that manually. only 1.66v, or auto (which goes to 1.648v)

    edit: not sure if this is relevant, but sometimes when i turn the computer on, it goes off for a second then comes back on by itself. strange.
    Last edited by ga-ex58-ud5; 11-17-2009 at 02:45 AM.
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    for ram 1.66 in bios sets it to 1.64 actual volts,1.35000 qpi is fine but it seems high for stock settings,try it and see it wont hurt anything
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    I think you may not actually even need 1.65v on your ram.
    if the auto settings setting it to about that then maybe so, for me however, my ram is rated to run upto and at 1.65 however it runs as low as 1.58 without issue.

    I think the best way to proceed is to stick within a close voltage rage to stock, once you find the system is stable, even if safely over volted a little, you then have a stable configured state you can use to test lower voltages out with, eventually with enough configuring, testing and restarting, you'll find what the tightest voltage range is for your ram, auto for everything else is generally fine and you should (not definitely) be able to get the system stable without needing to change the other voltages.
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    yeah, good idea - i'll try to undervolt the dram voltage next to see what happens.
    on prime95 (with 6GB installed) it came back with a worrying error ealier "Hardware failure detected" "rounding was 0.5, expected..<something else>.." on three of the threads before Blue screen of death.

    I've taken out one memory stick now running on 4GB again, and the system seems perfect for the last few hours. Passed 20+ tests on intelburn "maximum" setting no problem. Prime95 saw no problems either after 30 minutes torture test. Starting to think that the CPU is most likely okay because of this, but maybe it has problems with handling DDR3 that can't be fixed. Tried nearly all the possible different settings now. Hmm.
    But yeah - will try undervolt dram before going any further.
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    it should run in tripple channel at spec timings and speed without issue,i have no trouble with my ram with qpi at 1.30000
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    also for qwertylesh do u use xp mode in win7 at all? as im thinkng of using win7 ultimate
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    Default Re: GA-EX58 UD5 - crashing with 3 channel memory

    ga-ex58-ud5, kits can be bad where they just dont run in triple channel properly but run individually or in dual channel properly, its rare but i actually went through a problem with a DOA kit that did exactly that.
    with just 3 pieces, you should only need to (usually) set the xmp, set the voltage manually for the dram if the spd/bios doesnt set it properly and voila.

    since this isnt the case here, then bypassing the xmp and setting the timing, cmd rate, voltage, frequency for the ram + the uncore manually should pretty much do the same job, so if it still doesnt work stable it could be a bad kit. there really is only so much testing you can do before you run out of setting changes to try, granted it will take you a s...t load of time to try them all, you may find a setting that works with the kit, but if you exhaust all options maybe consider getting another x58 owner to try it out and if its unstable in that system then RMA cos its DOA.

    I didnt even try my bad doa kit out in another system, I went to the OCZ forums and troubleshooted the kit with the support staff, you could possably do the same with corsair support. (if you dont have another x58 board to try the kit on)

    wazza300, I ran the Win7 RC 7100 for many months and used the XP mode with that, its quite neat, it has some draw backs like the virtualised processes are limited to 16bit colour only and a few other minor limitations but over all its quite a cool feature. I think that XP mode is going to work out best for those who have propitiatory written programs (like retail or database related) who's vendor no long supports it or even exists.

    Since ive gotten an OEM Windows 7 though, i havent had the need to try the latest XP mode download.
    Last edited by qwertylesh; 11-17-2009 at 03:43 PM.
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