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    Default Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Herro, I'm not kinda of a noob at overclock. I know the basics but memory timings fail to stick to me. I'm just wondering if anyone could give me suggestions on the memory timings. I've read them and seem to understand some bits about it but I need a little more push in a direction so I can understand them better. I also need help on the voltages. Here are my settings and system:

    intel e6600 conroe
    4x1gb g.skill ddr2 800 pc6400
    freezer pro 7 heatsink

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.34GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 372
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800 744
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... [Auto]
    tWTR.......................................... [Auto]
    tWR............................................ [Auto]
    tRFC........................................... [Auto]
    tRTP........................................... [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:[Auto]

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ...........................[Auto]

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:[Auto]

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:[Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:[Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:[Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:[Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:[Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:[Auto]

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:[Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:[Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:[Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:[Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:[Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:[Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.5
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: [Auto]

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: [Auto]
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: [Auto]


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [Auto]

    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........: [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.590
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

    Oh, and I forgot, temps are 30 idle and 50 under load. p95 runs fine 12 hr testing.

    any help/ and or explanations about overclocking would be greatly appreciated!
    Last edited by KinkiKowBoi; 11-15-2009 at 06:35 AM.

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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    How do you conclude it's memory timings?
    Please read this post, follow steps 1,2 and 4, and we may be able to advise.

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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [9]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] << ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.34 (372x9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [372 Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100]

    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< [Auto]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<< [Auto]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Disabled]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [2.00B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [800 744]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD ------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS ------------------- 15 ---------- : [Auto]

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD ------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- 6 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC ------------------- 52 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP ------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ----------- 0 --------- : [Auto]

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : [Auto]

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.350 ---- : [1.500]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.200]
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.500]

    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.200]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500]
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.000]
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]
    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P Rev#: 1.6
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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Based on the BIOSversion(FB) reported in CPU-Z, board vers. is 1.6, the A3 rev. is the chipset revision I think.

    I see you applied the suggested manual settings, do you have still problem increasing FSB?

    Try to increase it with 8.5 multiplier see if it work then
    Memory multiplier 2.00D may be needed as you moving towords 400FSB, some are able to use B strap some don't.
    MCH Core 1.2-1.24v may be needed, also CPU Termination 1.2-1.24v.
    CPU PLL may be increased one notch if you feel it is needed.

    The idle/load temperatures reported are CPU or core temps?

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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Based on the BIOSversion(FB) reported in CPU-Z, board vers. is 1.6, the A3 rev. is the chipset revision I think.

    I see you applied the suggested manual settings, do you have still problem increasing FSB?

    Try to increase it with 8.5 multiplier see if it work then
    Memory multiplier 2.00D may be needed as you moving towords 400FSB, some are able to use B strap some don't.
    MCH Core 1.2-1.24v may be needed, also CPU Termination 1.2-1.24v.
    CPU PLL may be increased one notch if you feel it is needed.

    The idle/load temperatures reported are CPU or core temps?
    I can;t increment the Clock Ratio by a decimal number. It has to be by a whole digit. Or is there something I'm missing? The idle load temperatures are recorded by Cpu-Z.
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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Quote Originally Posted by KinkiKowBoi View Post
    I can;t increment the Clock Ratio by a decimal number. It has to be by a whole digit. Or is there something I'm missing?
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio if you have it, if not then 8, point is increasing FSB but not CPU speed and the need for more vcore.

    Quote Originally Posted by KinkiKowBoi
    The idle load temperatures are recorded by Cpu-Z.
    EasyTune you mean?
    Use also CoreTemp or RealTemp to monitor core temperatures. There's a newer version of CoreTemp that also record min/max core temps though they need to be reset when first oppened.

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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio if you have it, if not then 8, point is increasing FSB but not CPU speed and the need for more vcore.


    EasyTune you mean?
    Use also CoreTemp or RealTemp to monitor core temperatures. There's a newer version of CoreTemp that also record min/max core temps though they need to be reset when first oppened.
    Yea, sorry, I meant coretemp. I lowered my multipler to 8 and raised fsb to 380. Also increased ppl to 1.560, MCH and CPU Termination are both at 1.220 right now. Is it ok if I lower my VCore or should I keep it as is? And should I keep raising the MCH anf VCore if I get BSOD or other errors?
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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    It all depends what the reason for the BSOD is.
    Vcore vary with CPU frequency, there ar several ways to test CPU Vcore needs, one with Prime95/Orthos small FFT test, another is with IBT(IntelBurnTest). IBT produce much more heat than Prime95 so watch core temps, for the E6600 don't let them go over 65c for a long period of time.
    Prime95 small FFT fail it is probably Vcore, if Prime97 large FFT fail likely it'll be memory/MCH/VTT(CPU Termination) settings.
    You can raise MCH and VTT, but I don't think you should need more than 1,26v MCH Core and 1.24v VTT while you are still under 400FSB.

    EDIT: Vcore is at max intel's soec for the E6600, it's possible that you can lower it some.
    Last edited by Chike; 11-16-2009 at 04:17 AM.

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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    It all depends what the reason for the BSOD is.
    Vcore vary with CPU frequency, there ar several ways to test CPU Vcore needs, one with Prime95/Orthos small FFT test, another is with IBT(IntelBurnTest). IBT produce much more heat than Prime95 so watch core temps, for the E6600 don't let them go over 65c for a long period of time.
    Prime95 small FFT fail it is probably Vcore, if Prime97 large FFT fail likely it'll be memory/MCH/VTT(CPU Termination) settings.
    You can raise MCH and VTT, but I don't think you should need more than 1,26v MCH Core and 1.24v VTT while you are still under 400FSB.
    Alright, I'm at 405 FSB with both MCH and VTT at 1.24 and vCore at 1.344. Can I trust the Vcore in CPU-Z to be exact? Or is it always off from BIOS? Also, how long do I need to run the small tests for in order for me to know when to switch to the large test? And when is it a good time to run the blend tests?
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    Default Re: Max Overclock 3.34 with my e6600 on p45-ud3p?

    CPU-Z will always bee a bit off BIOS, that's called vdrop, then you'll see another decrease while under load, that's called vdroop. I would not say exact, but it reports the reading from the sensors, that as much as accurate it can be without lab equipment.
    I run small FFT for an hour or two, I rather set Vcore based on IBT. IBT results can indicate the need for Vcore even if it does not fail. If results and temps are low it means there si a need for more Vcore. You can start high, and lower Vcore untill you see a drop in GFlops, then take it up a two notches. This can be done with EasyTune, then once you find the needed Vcore reboot set it in BIOS and continue testing with Prime95 blend.
    If you don't run UBT let small FFT run 2-4 hours before switching to blend.
    Blend should be ran for 8+ hours.

    BTW higher FSB and MCH Core means more heat, how is the airflow around the NB?

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