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    Default Re: Help on Computer/Partly Overclocking

    Are you manually setting your memory multiplier/strap, memory and Northbridge voltages? If not this could be the issue, with 6GB at stock or not you need to set a few things manually

    I would also advise you to be sure you are using the latest BIOS as well. You can check current version if you are unsure by looking in CPU-z Mainboard tab or by pressing F9 on the MAIN BIOS Page. Latest BIOS for your board and I do suggest using it is F4
    GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP35C-DS3R (rev. 2.1)

    If you flash please read this guide and DO NOT use @BIOS >>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    It really does sound to me like a memory issue, slight incompatibility, or incorrect settings.

    There is ALWAYS a need for Memtest, and this is the suggested version >>
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

    New ram or not, it can be faulty on day one when you receive it. I do see you bought additional memory but I just wanted to make that clear to you as you should not be ruling it out as a non-issue due to the fact that it is new ram.

    Now that you do have 6GB, this also brings in more issues to consider. First you need to be sure they are the same model/specs/version. So are they? And for sure you will need to set some BIOS settings manually with 4-6GB, Auto is not going to work or be stable. If you will accept that this may be the cause, can you please give me your full current settings and I will advise back. Template is in my signature

    As for PSU Testing, yes that guide would be fine if you wanted to test that way. You could also just do a simple check with a PSU Tester such as this, of course it wont be as detailed though but it will tell you if your PSU is failing
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20378
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 11-18-2009 at 02:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Help on Computer/Partly Overclocking

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Are you manually setting your memory multiplier/strap, memory and Northbridge voltages? If not this could be the issue, with 6GB at stock or not you need to set a few things manually
    The RAM was initially 8GB and it still had the problem. I didnít set any voltages or anything when the CPU was at stock settings however when overclocking Iíve set the voltages up. (1.5+0.3)

    I would also advise you to be sure you are using the latest BIOS as well. You can check current version if you are unsure by looking in CPU-z Mainboard tab or by pressing F9 on the MAIN BIOS Page. Latest BIOS for your board and I do suggest using it is F4
    GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP35C-DS3R (rev. 2.1)

    If you flash please read this guide and DO NOT use @BIOS >>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    It really does sound to me like a memory issue, slight incompatibility, or incorrect settings.
    Youíre correct on the bios not being up-to-date. Itís a version F2. (01/04/2008) so pretty old. Iíll update my bios next and see if it helps. Iím guessing Iíll hold on the PSU and see if these sorts the problem.
    There is ALWAYS a need for Memtest, and this is the suggested version >>
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
    Iím sure, Iíve done this before. But Iíll do another one.
    New ram or not, it can be faulty on day one when you receive it. I do see you bought additional memory but I just wanted to make that clear to you as you should not be ruling it out as a non-issue due to the fact that it is new ram.

    Now that you do have 6GB, this also brings in more issues to consider. First you need to be sure they are the same model/specs/version. So are they? And for sure you will need to set some BIOS settings manually with 4-6GB, Auto is not going to work or be stable. If you will accept that this may be the cause, can you please give me your full current settings and I will advise back. Template is in my signature
    Yes, theyíre all the same model. In fact the whole RAM is 100% identical. Brought it as a 2x2GB packs.
    Post #16

    As for PSU Testing, yes that guide would be fine if you wanted to test that way. You could also just do a simple check with a PSU Tester such as this, of course it wont be as detailed though but it will tell you if your PSU is failing
    CoolMax Ultra Deluxe 24-Pin Power Supply Tester w/ LCD Display Products Model: PS-224 [PS-224] : Performance-PCs.com, ... sleeve it and they will come
    Iíll leave the PSU for later.
    Last edited by Leungwk01; 11-18-2009 at 03:07 PM.
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    Code:
       ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4
      Rank Write to READ Delay________ 4
      Write to Precharge Delay_________ 8
      Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 58
      Read to Precharge Delay__________4
      Static tRead Value_______________8
      Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
      
      CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV] Not there
      CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]               Not there
      GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]      Not there
      
      System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
      DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
      PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.2V]
      FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V]
      (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.3V]
      CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.38125V]
      
      Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
      No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
      CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
      C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
      x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
      CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
      CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
      Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
      
      Integrated Peripherals
      Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leungwk01 View Post
    Code:
       ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4
      Rank Write to READ Delay________ 4
      Write to Precharge Delay_________ 8
      Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 58
      Read to Precharge Delay__________4
      Static tRead Value_______________8
      Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
      
      CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV] Not there
      CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]               Not there
      GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]      Not there
      
      System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
      DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
      PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.2V]
      FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V]
      (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.3V]
      CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.38125V]
      
      Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
      No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
      CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
      C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
      x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
      CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
      CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
      Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
      
      Integrated Peripherals
      Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    I'll post the results of memtest when I'm back from school.
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    Default Re: Help on Computer/Partly Overclocking

    Thanks for your updated settings. Can you please post me your full settings so I can advise back suggested ones to use for 4GB?

    Let's try 4GB alone now please until we can get you going

    And please do go ahead and update the BIOS first, be sure to read the guide so you do it correctly and don't run into any issues.

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    Ah sorry it got cut off. Here is the full bios.
    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8] 
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5] Not there
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [401] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.50]
    DRAM Timing Selectable__800  SPD 1000 [Manual]
    
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    
    CAS Latency Time________________ 5
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ 5
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______5
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ 15
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 4
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 8
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________58 
    Read to Precharge Delay__________4
    Static tRead Value_______________8
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
    
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV] Not there
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]                 Not there 
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]             Not there
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.2V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.3V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.38125V]
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    I will update the bios and memtest reported back with 0 errors/1pass using 4GB in dual channel. (been on for 40mins atm will report back when its longer)
    It did memtest for around 50mins before it did the same crash thing....
    Edit: Bios flashed to F4
    will run memtest again but replacing 1 stick with another. (exact same model etc)
    It passed this time..

    Edit: I decided to do a PSU stress test and yes it restarted... However not pitch black screen but BSOD.
    I'm now wondering that the crash I have before is actually a BSOD and if it is.
    Then it could help a bit. I looked inside 'event viewer' and it stated that I had 1 critical problem within the last 7 days. (It was the one that just happened).
    The time matched when it happened
    The problem is a Critical event and source as 'kermel-power'.
    Description as
    "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."
    But yes, it isn't very specific as I'm guessing most BSoD would suggest if it doesn't respond.

    I just thought you may want more background information.

    Edit 2: Kept all the settings on stock with some tweak. (only the voltages) It passed OCCT PSU test with full screen res 1920x1080
    Last edited by Leungwk01; 11-19-2009 at 04:59 AM.
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    Default Re: Help on Computer/Partly Overclocking

    So are you now stable?

    One pass with memtest is not enough, please run 5-10 full passes or overnight if possible


    You may need to use 2.40B or 2.66D at 400 FSB, you may want to test those out as well if you continue to have issues because 2.50A is for 266 FSB area

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    I doubt its stable.
    I'll have a try at 2.4 and 2.66.
    I ran memtest and it stopped after 1 pass with 100% of the second one..
    It just said something like "you have successfully passed"

    How would you suggest I test to see if its stable? As it sometimes don't freeze when I use stress programs but does randomly like even if its idle?

    Edit: no setting for 2.66
    Last edited by Leungwk01; 11-19-2009 at 05:35 PM.
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    Did a PSU test and everything seems fine. However I only did the simple method.

    Any suggestions on what could be the cause?
    Stability with the RAM? but it works fine on another computer so its something with this computer -.-
    Last edited by Leungwk01; 11-21-2009 at 08:28 PM.
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    What is your tRead value? Does your system seem to run hot? Just a few thoughts.

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