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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]

    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [DISABLED]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [ENABLED]

    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [ENABLED]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs

    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. auto
    Uncore Frequency .......................... (in blue 3800mhz )

    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................200
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [101]


    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[900mV]

    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]

    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [expert]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:

    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP .........................................9
    tRAS .......................................28
    CMD.........................................2


    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)

    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................

    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................




    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................


    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................


    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    here is my exact spec so you know what im working with

    *OVERCLOCKED* Intel Core i7 920 D0 Stepping (SLBEJ) 2.66Ghz @ 4.00GHz Max / Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Intel X58 Motherboard / Corsair 6GB DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz DDR3 Bundle 1
    Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 1000W ATX2.2 Modular SLi Compliant Power Supply 1
    Samsung SpinPoint F1 320GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD322HJ)

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    Hi I have tinkering all night and this is where I am
    I have loaded F7 which came with the pre clock. I have loaded optimised def then loaded the profile and taken photo's of all the tweaking pages and sub pages. ImageShack -

    With F7 on these settings, nice clock but doesnt resume from sleep with the clock, however on opt def, it will sleep and resume (although the CD drive reinstalls itself and all the usb ports error aswell.

    I saw F9I bios available in the forum. I have loaded the bios , run opt def, rebooted and loaded all the original 4ghz settings MANUALLY from the photo's (no profile loads).
    Now these settings are from an OVERCLOCKING specialists company so would be nice to see what a gigabyte insider has to say about them. Do I need them tweaker further to avoid the cold boots and sleep problems after the PC has been asleep for more than a day. Will test that and report back thanks alot.

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    Unfortunately no better. Woke the system and it tuned itself on and off 3 times then stayed on totally dead and had to be switched off. Starting to drive me mad now. I must be able to do this somehow. Any tips would be great.

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    Well there has been many changes to the BIOS since F7 (Which should fail at S3 resume from an overclock anyway unless it is a small one) so that is why the same settings likely do not work.

    Try these and let me know how you get along, hopefully you did want 4Ghz, if not let me know and I will change things >>

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x] << For now OK, but I just have to tell you some CPU's hate even CPU mutli's So setting 19 here and using 210 Bclk or enable turbo and use 21x200 for 4.2 may be better.

    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [DISABLED]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [ENABLED] << ? I thought these guys were professional? Does not look that way if they left this enanled. Disable please

    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [ENABLED] << Same thought as above? Disabled please
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs

    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. auto << Set x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... (in blue 3800mhz ) << Set always 2x Ram multi or 2x+1 or 2x+2. I find 2x+2 to work best, but it may take you personally some time to get that working so for now set 2x ram multi (2x8=16)

    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................200
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [101] << Set 100 (101 will not be used anyway, it will be 100)


    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[900mV] << Again WTF? Definately not set by a pro. Please set these to 800/900

    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV] << 900 see above
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]

    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [expert]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:

    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP .........................................9
    tRAS .......................................28
    CMD.........................................2 << Pro's again? Come on :) Set 1T

    ^^ I need a link to your ram or the mode # as I doubt you need to use 999-28 timings. If you can please look at the ram sticker and give me the model #, or in CPU-z get the model # from the SPD tab. ^^

    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)

    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................

    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ << 1T as noted abvoe

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................




    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v << May need 1.28-1.42
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << 1.28-1.42 should be fine for 1600Mhz with the above timings. (Maybe try out 1.32-1.36 for now)
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... << Set 1.84


    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.2-1.24
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... << Set 1.20-1.24
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ << Set 1.14


    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    WOW I love the confidence bro - If only I had half of that i'd be a better man. Feel Hopeful already. Thanks for the time out checking my settings really appreciate it.

    Ok so tweaked everything as you mentioned, and first of all It actually booted and gave the................update success! (which is nice). I wasnt too sure if you meant I could leave the main ram settings on auto or not so left them at 9-9-9-28-1 for now but here is the link for SPD data you asked for. http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6735/spdl.png. Will update any developments!!

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    oh and I was greedy and went for 4.2GHZ using 21*200 with turbo left on!!! :-/)

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    Just one more thing so you know here the voltages where you gave me option between a number - mostly I went slap bang for inbetween.
    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v << May need 1.28-1.42 #1.3315V#
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << 1.28-1.42 should be fine for 1600Mhz with the above timings. (Maybe try out 1.32-1.36 for now)#1.335V#
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... << Set 1.84


    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.2-1.24 #1.24#
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... << Set 1.20-1.24 #1.24#
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ << Set 1.14


    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelscene View Post
    WOW I love the confidence bro - If only I had half of that i'd be a better man. Feel Hopeful already. Thanks for the time out checking my settings really appreciate it.

    Ok so tweaked everything as you mentioned, and first of all It actually booted and gave the................update success! (which is nice). I wasnt too sure if you meant I could leave the main ram settings on auto or not so left them at 9-9-9-28-1 for now but here is the link for SPD data you asked for. http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6735/spdl.png. Will update any developments!!
    Hey buddy, thanks! I am here to help, so no problem.

    Ya I am a very confident user, I have a few X58 boards and I overclock myself all the time. I even do Dry Ice overclocking, so I know a bit more about things when it comes to overclocking than an average overclocker might. Of course all hardware is different, so any suggestions I make may not be spot on for your setup but should be close enough for you to tweak further and get going.

    Well I suggest setting your own ram main timings, but you still did not provide me a link or Model # for your memory so not sure what I would suggest using for the timings. You likely do not need to use 999-28 though. Get me this info and I can better advise you on that

    Quote Originally Posted by wheelscene View Post
    oh and I was greedy and went for 4.2GHZ using 21*200 with turbo left on!!! :-/)
    Nothing greedy about that, this should be the norm for all 920 owners with good coolers. It's actually what my the setup I am using now is set to.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheelscene View Post
    Just one more thing so you know here the voltages where you gave me option between a number - mostly I went slap bang for inbetween.
    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.30000v << May need 1.28-1.42 #1.3315V#
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ << 1.28-1.42 should be fine for 1600Mhz with the above timings. (Maybe try out 1.32-1.36 for now)#1.335V#
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... << Set 1.84


    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... << Set 1.2-1.24 #1.24#
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... << Set 1.20-1.24 #1.24#
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ << Set 1.14


    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.660
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Sounds good, how is the stability testing coming along? If you get BSOD's here is what the codes normally mean

    BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

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    Default Re: Ex58 cold boot and sleep problems

    Hi thanks!
    Well I popped the hood and wrote down the info on the sticker, guess what, you were right.

    PVT36G1600LLK DDR3 1600 Mhz (8-8-8-24) 6 GB (3x2GB Kit) 1.65V

    Shall I drop the timings to 8-8-8-24-1 like it says. :-)

    Well so far so good, set it sleeping last night and woke it up. Keyboard and monitor sprung to life nicely and desktop just there. So in that respect looks LOADS better, just need to see if it stays like that if left longer. Also need to check powering from shutdown longer see if get cold boots. I am pretty confident now it's looking HEAPS better.

    I also did a quick PRIME95 test for about 20 mins or so and it was fine. I'll do an hour over the weekend. I try not to get too caught up in all that because I'd never be doing a proper inetensive session on there for longer than an 2 hours etc. But will need to check for stability I guess.

    Looking forward to finalizing the memory bit.
    Hey also is there a book or web resource where I can learn a bit more for myself. I always wanted to be able to do this. Thanks

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