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    Default Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    So I have a q9550 and a ga-ep45-dq6 and f13d bios that won't s3 sleep. S1 works fine. 12 hr prime 95 stable. 100 run lin pack stable. Temps great. Never bsoded. Never crashed in game. Perfect chip outsite of s3 sleep not working above 410mhz fsb. Quite sure its gigabyte's screwup, but a certain someone believes otherwise. Below are my settings. Maybe there's something you see thats off. I don't see anything. My system is perfectly stable :( Would like a work around. If not, for sure next board an asus or MSI because no s3 sleep is quite lousy indeed.

    I've tried everything btw from pretty much every windows sleep fix to every bios available on the gigabyte website and every possible configuration that makes any sort of sense. Nothing works. I also had a ga-ep45-ds3r with the same problem and despite switching board, psu, chip, ram, and video card at some point or other the problem is exactly the same. How is it that two p45 boards have the exact same problem despite difference configs between the two of them?

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4ghz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 471 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< auto
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< auto


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400mhz
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 471 x 2
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................12

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................aut o
    tWTR.......................................... auto
    tWR............................................ auto
    tRFC........................................... auto
    tRTP........................................... auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
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    Default Re: Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: auto tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.318

    CPU Termination…..... 1.38

    CPU PLL…………………....1.56

    CPU Referen.…………....0.76V*.......:auto <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< auto .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.34
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< 0.775 (one step up. Needed for stability)
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.95 (one step up. needed for stability)
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....2.1 V............:
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage De

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    Default Re: Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    Since you are mentioning other brands in a brand specific forum I just have to reply, in truth. Those brands, and all others, also have S3 sleep issues until the BIOS kinks are worked out. Some never are, for any brand, but I assure you it has been for this model lineup as I use it myself. Just FYI on the other brands, don't go spending money only to have to learn the hard way.

    What OS are you using? If it is windows 7 then that could be part of the blame, I have seen many issues with S3 and windows 7 lately. I use Vista and have zero issues with sleep on P45 boards.

    I see you are using a lot of auto's, this is likely a huge part of the problem!

    I will get you some suggested settings to try so you can tweak and test things a bit for stability, then try S3 once you find stability.

    But first, this can't be right?
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400mhz
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Anyway, please give me a link to your ram or the model # and tell me how much of it you are using, then I will give you a full set of suggested settings. I can see why you are having issues though, many of those settings will not be fully stable in auto

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    I don't know... I'm just upset a bit and can get carried away in my s3 sleep passion (i literally have tried so many failed things). I'll probably buy a gigabyte again since it does seem the problems may have been addressed in other boards, but dammit, I just don't like how gigabyte tech support completely refuses to even address the problem.

    I'm using vista 64 basic
    Indeed its 2.00D. Just a typo.

    I do have 8gb of muskin redline 1000mhz ram.

    Like I said, at lower fsbs it works, but as soon as I cross about 410mhz, it goes away. Safe mode doesn't assist either.

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    Default Re: Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    Well normal support channels have been told this is fixed and it is, that could be why they are no help?

    I now remember you posting about your S3 issues and how you fixed them before in Vista. Right? I think so, so as you said MS Helped you directly and you were able to use S3 up to 41x FSB right?

    Anyway, I will see if the engineers will look into the latest BIOS for you again and test, but they will likely say as I do that it is working up to 450+ FSB.

    It very well could be the 8GB giving you issues, I only test with 4GB, do you have to have 8GB for something particular? Can you check into that and test with 4GB?

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    I do indeed need the 8gb; I occasionally push 5gb or 6gb of stuff loaded in the OS when working in Adobe and etc.

    I noticed something interesting yesterday. I've used all the bioses released for this board at some point from about f8 up. I was using the f13d beta bios at the time when I created this thread. However, I decided to go back and recheck if optimized defaults worked with s3 sleep on the f13D because I couldn't if when I flashed if I loaded optimized defaults or used fail safe defaults (i read that long thread about how to flash which you posted;good stuff). Anyway, It didn't. The pc would sleep, but when it reawoke all the fan would spin, without ever dying down or power cycling (normally s3 sleep failure gives an infinite reboot cycle); essentially the pc would power up at full blast but never do anything. I thought it was a fluke so I reset the pc and reloaded optimized defaults and the same thing happened.

    So then I reflashed with f13D again. it didn't work and yielded the same type of failure (full blast fans and lights, nothing happening). S3 sleep on default settings (no OC, no changes, etc) just wouldn't work.

    I had to flash to f12 to get s3 sleep working at optimized defaults. Anyway, the current problem is still the same: i get the classic infinite power reboot with the f12 bios when OCed. With the f12 bios at 4ghz s3 sleep doesn't work but at optimized default it works. I ran linpack for 20 runs with the f12/4ghz settings and it was stable and so far prime 95 blend has been running for about 5hrs and is also stable (I used the same settings I used for the f13d beta bios). Stability doesn't seem to be the issue.

    Sadly I haven't been able to test for the upper limit on s3 sleep. When I last checked it was around 410mhz. Again, like I said whats most upsetting to me is that I had a ga-ep45-ds3 which had the exact same problem. Over time between my current rig and last rig I've changed all the following components:

    the ga-ep45-ds3 started off with 4gb of ocz reaper ram, an e8400, a coolmax 500w psu, a a nvidia 9600gt, a generic WD hard drive, and a nzxt hush case

    my current rig is a ga-ep45-dq6 with 8gb of mushkin redline ram, a q9550, an enermax 625 modular psu, a nvidia gtx 260, 2x X-25ms in raid0, and a silverstone ft01 case

    I've literally switched out every component yet the same issue exists and had several different overclocking schemes and yet the same problem exists. You can see why I'm a bit miffed :)
    Last edited by Sunburn74; 12-01-2009 at 03:41 AM.

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    Default Re: Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    Thanks for the info on 8GB, I just wanted to ask because many users us 8-12GB and really only need / use 3-4GB, so I thought I would ask to see if you really needed it or not. Do you mind doing some testing with 4GB only just to see if this matters or not?

    I have wrote in and asked if the BIOS engineers could look at this board again for this issue for you.

    When you are doing your optimized test for S3, you should still make a few changes of course. I would try that again just to be sure, and change Perf. Enh. to Standard, set your needed MCH Voltage for 8GB (Maybe 1.24-1.3), and set your ram voltage to 2.1-2.15 too.

    MCH Ref may be key in your finding stability at high clocks when resuming, do you adjust this manually or not?

    I do suggest any and all further testing be done on the latest Beta of course, as this is what the engineers will be testing with once they get time to look into the issue for you.

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    Default Re: Ga-p45-dq6 not sleeping. Please help

    Ok, I recieved word back from the Gigabyte engineers and my contact on this issue, as I suspected the S3 issues were resolved a while ago. Here is a image of the email showing you their reply >>



    So it likely is that some of your settings off still a little, or the use of 8GB at high clocks. Can you please test 4GB for me at your higher overclocks and if it fails post me the settings you are trying. I know you need 8GB, but lets test 4 for now and see if this maybe is the cause of your problems, if so I will try to help you find a solution

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    I just tested 4gb of ram. S3 sleep failed, with the infinite power reboot happening afterwards.

    As for my system settings they are as follows:
    I'm running 4ghz (471x8.5).

    Most of the ram settings are on auto. The only manual entries are the timings (5-5-5-12) and the voltage (2.1V)

    My settings for the cpu and mch are listed above. My current mch voltage is 1.34. I've tested as high as 1.4, with no success. The only ref settings I changed are to mch ref and mch dram ref, both of which I increased by one step from default (its tough to describe ref voltages since they are dependent on other values) . Without the increase, prime 95 tends to fail at about 4 hrs. With the increase, its 24hr stable essentially.

    I think you are right in that most likely its a ram issue and its some auto setting that is causing problems. If you have tips for manual setting, I'd like to hear them because s3 sleep is essentially whats keeping my system from being a perfect system IMO...

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