Please report all spam threads, posts and suspicious members. We receive spam notifications and will take immediate action!
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 28 of 28

Thread: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes




  1. #21
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    UdderSpace
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Thanks folks...thanks LSD, since it sounds like my setup can go considerably faster than 7x425 (based on Kick and Holland) I'm shooting for anything in the 7x450 to 7x475 range ... I'm assuming that 7x475 would be difficult for me since 7x450 is so elusive.

    I will try R_Holland's settings for 7x460 above and I'll probably try pulling two sticks of memory in the next rounds too. Since nothing has worked so far, if you have time to send me some high-end settings lsdmeasap, that would be amazing!

    Thanks everybody for having a look and encouraging the obsession ;)

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    UdderSpace
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    @RHoll, man your settings didn't work for me and nor did variations I did between LSD's ranges and your settings... first I got multiple beeps, then it wouldn't start up at all! Hahahah, not like these are aggressive settings. Computer was pissed at me though ;)

    Onward!

  3. #23
    Lsdmeasap's Avatar
    Lsdmeasap is offline GIGABYTE Guru
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    PCB Island
    Posts
    25,940

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Give me your current 425 settings that work for you now, and I will advise back on 450

    Multiple fast beeps mean tRD is set to low, if this is what you meant raise that and try again (Static tRead Value if you are unsure)

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    UdderSpace
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Heya!

    I had to table overclocking in order to rebuild the install a few times and perfect it and it was one of my last fixes that seems to have improved my ability to overclock, at least marginally.... I used a variation of the great advice you've given me so far but I think it needs to be tweaked considerably. I keep running into snags when I take certain settings off of Auto but I'm sure my various memory timings (and general voltages) could/should tweaked....here's where I'm at... thanks for having another look!

    Prime has been running for a few hours at the below settings:

    CPU = Core2Quad Q8200 2.33GHz
    Motherboard = GA-EP45-UD3P rev 1.6
    BIOS Version = FB
    Ram = 2x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 Series 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) -- I TOOK OUT 2 STICKS FOR TESTING BUT WILL HAVE 4X2GB WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE)

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x (max)
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.[not in bios]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.15GHz (445x7)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 445Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: (not in my bios)
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D << Did you try 2.00B or 2.40B (2.00B and 2.40B fail prime within a minute in each variation I've tried)
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) .......800.......: 890
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD.....................................3......Au to
    tWTR.....................................3.....Aut o (tried 4 and failed)
    tWR......................................6......Au to (tried 4-7 and failed)
    tRFC.....................................52......A uto (tried 52, 62, and 72 and failed)
    tRTP......................................3.....Au to (tried 5 and failed)
    Command Rate (CMD) .................0...: 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value...................7......:10 (better to have low or high?)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...............0....:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................0..:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ...............0..:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................0.:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank).................6...:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank).................6..:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................5...:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)...............8...:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B [SAME AS CHANNEL A]
    Static tRead Value.........................:10 (better to have low or high?)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................1.2875.........: 1.35 (tried 1.34-1.425 can not get beyond current OC even with higher Vcore)

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: 1.3 (tried 1.28-1.34)

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: 1.570

    CPU Referen.…………....0.76V.......: Auto

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: NOT IN BIOS

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.28 << To much, try 1.22-1.26
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; .803
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.570
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.200

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.2 (memory may be rated up to 2.3)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC (not in bios)

    [will I be turning any of these back on when done?]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    US
    Posts
    73

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Static tRead Value...................7......:10 (better to have low or high?)

    better to have tread(performance level) lower. some tread values are impossible to acheive based on fsb and memory speed. use everest to see bandwith changes when trying to change take a look at the memory latency too. nothing wrong with tread 14-16 except sucky bandwith latency

    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.28 << To much, try 1.22-1.26
    1.30v is the max that i would consider safe. going above is up to you.
    if the mch gets damaged = headache.random bsods. there is no temp sensor on this board

    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.2 (memory may be rated up to 2.3)
    i would go 2.0v at 5-5-5-15. <---very safe. no higher. would use this for 4x2gb

    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.200
    too high. can affect sata 0-6 ports. increases heat and can make it worse if you have a hot gfx card right next to the southbridge.

    giganate, one problem with fb that i noticed and not with fd/fc/fda if i use 2.1v dram i cant boot with 1.30-1.36v mch. try lowering your ram voltage to 2.0v and try overclocking higher this time. if 8gb doesn't work try trd=12. you should also try setting all voltages and settings manually and not auto.

    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    @RHoll, man your settings didn't work for me and nor did variations I did between LSD's ranges and your settings... first I got multiple beeps, then it wouldn't start up at all! Hahahah, not like these are aggressive settings. Computer was pissed at me though ;)

    problem holding you back is cooling or you didn't manually set all values as stated. in post #19 plz try again with some changes. fsb=420 tread=12 for channel a&b. plz set all values as stated in template --->Trd2rd,Twr2wr,Twr2rd,Trd2wr,tRRD,tWTR,tWR,tRFC,tR TP,CMD <----- its only kind of very important unless=fail


    (tried 4 and failed)
    (tried 52, 62, and 72 and failed)
    (tried 5 and failed)
    these shouldn't fail when a lower setting works. no really. makes no sense.

    [will I be turning any of these back on when done?]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    yes, recommended. if you ever get a bsod while testing its either the OS or your settings are not stable. no need to test your stability with prime95/orthos/linx
    Last edited by R_Hollandtekk; 12-17-2009 at 02:30 AM.

    p45 ud3p 1.6 fb stable but fd fails or is it just my ocz incompatibility?!? This guy has problems uniquely similar to mine. I'm starting to think this ocz brand is just not that great. JR P45 driving me crazy!


    MB Rev: ga-ep45-ud3p 1.6 Bios Ver: fd
    Cpu:E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB
    Ram:OCZ Reaper HPC 2x2GB DDR2 1066 Dual Channel Kit
    PSU:Antec EA500
    Chipset: Thermalright HR-05 SLI/IFX
    SB: TT Extreme Spirit II

  6. #26
    kick's Avatar
    kick is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Europe,the wild wild west.
    Posts
    1,223

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Just posting this again,these are the minimums ive been using on the board for a year now with the 8200.
    Im using the exact same settings for the Q8400 except it gives 3.92Ghz.
    Both work/Q8200 did work with 500mhz fsb stable,but Im of the opinion its the relationship of the memory to the motherboard that is governing settings around480-520.
    Nb in the above actual fsb is 490x4 or 500x 4.

    Even tho your board is ud3p ,id be reasonably confident that if you had the same memory as mine ,these settings would work for you.
    Probably all the way down .
    Below 480-470 you can drop voltages dramatically.
    nb it took awhile to get static read down to 9 at 2000 actual fsb speed with 2:00D and 8 certainly wasnt happening.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x(x8)
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.43ghz(3.92ghz Q8400)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 490 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.........................: <<< 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).....................: <<< 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [TURBO]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2:00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 980
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time..............................5
    tRCD ...............................................5
    tRP'.............................................. ...5
    tRAS.............................................. .15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD.............................................. .3 [Auto]
    tWTR.............................................. 3 [Auto]
    tWR............................................... .6 [Auto]
    tRFC.............................................. 54 [Auto]
    tRTP.............................................. .3 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) .......................0 [Auto]

    Channel A Timing Settings
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................:0 Auto

    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto

    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training.........................:Auto

    Channel A Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ................... Auto


    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................:0 Auto

    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto

    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training.........................:Auto

    Channel B Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ................... Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.....................: Enabled
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.3625v
    CPU Termination….........................: 1.36v
    CPU PLL………………….......................: 1.59v
    CPU Referen.………….......................: 0.861v

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….........................: 1.38v
    MCH Reference……........................: 0.861v
    MCH/DRAM Ref…….........................: 1.03v
    ICH I/O……...................................: 1.57v
    ICH Core…….................................: 1.100v

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……..........................: 2.08V
    DRAM Termination ……....................: 1.03V
    Channel A Reference…....................: 0.900v [Auto]
    Channel B Reference…....................: 0.900v [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: n/a on Q8200(enabled on Q8400)

    nb turbo for memory tightens up the secondary timings,if your memory works with it on its more convenient than tweaking settings individually.
    The temperatures in my sig below were for the Q8200 mid summer,Q8400 seems relatively cooler tho.

    Bandwidth ends up around 9.5-10.5 Gb/s depending on what measurements are used ,and I think that is around the limit for the 45 chipset.At stock settings bandwidth its 7+Gb/s, memory timings are tighter of course.
    I dont know if say 1300mhz memory can exceed that ,but if it cant and its the chipset bandwidth is the limiting factor,the only performance increase at max fsb will be from cpu speed.
    Q8400 is running 15% faster than Q8200 but actual performance gain isnt that in testing,more like 7-10% but im happy enough.
    Last edited by kick; 12-17-2009 at 03:34 AM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    UdderSpace
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    I so appreciate your advice and help....I had to ramp down my efforts and I used the logic of everyone's settings to find safer, happier values for now. This computer has to be put to work for a couple months so I can't tweak it further but now that I have a better understanding of how all this works, I can get have it happy and I can apply the concepts to my Q6600 at home!

    thank you thank you thank you!

    Your thoughts make a lot of sense of how I should be approaching this... like what should work if I already have some of it working... it's coming clear.

    Thank you.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    NC
    Posts
    15

    Default Re: Another Q8200, EP45-UD3P Overclock in need of Expert Eyes

    Gigante - check out my thread again (Help Overclock Q8200)

    I finally got 3.4GHz stable with 8GB of 1066 (PC8500) RAM.

    If you want me to post my settings let me know.

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •