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    Default Re: My New Build

    I agree, if you do not NEED 8GB, it is really not worth having or the headaches that may come along with it.

    Was he using 8GB or just sold you all the DDR2 he had on hand? Just wondering because if he was using it all he should be able to tell you what the board needed settings-wise for 8GB.

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    Psycho, once again thank you for your input. I was lucky enough to check my email before heading out to Fry's. So after running memtest on all sticks and all banks with 5 passes and 0 errors I am now ready to tweak the bios for a stable 8gb. I am still at work so if you have any suggestions as to how I should start please feel free to drop a comment. The current settings are at default or optimized. Latest FD bios is loaded if that helps. Thanks again Psycho for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    I agree, if you do not NEED 8GB, it is really not worth having or the headaches that may come along with it.

    Was he using 8GB or just sold you all the DDR2 he had on hand? Just wondering because if he was using it all he should be able to tell you what the board needed settings-wise for 8GB.

    Lsdmeasap, I bought the mobo and the SSD drive from my friend. Like I told Psycho I wish I had talked to you guys first before making my purchases. All the parts I listed I already have on hand so I would like to use what I had bought even if it will come with headaches. With enough time and help I know that this machine can shine, overall for myself this is also a learning experience. I have some knowledge on computers but I'm mainly a car guy, the knowledge I acquired with pc's were mainly becuase I tune vehicles. Thanks for the post though.

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    Default Re: My New Build

    Nice to hear things are going smoothly so far.

    Let us know what speed you want to try to run the CPU at and give us your full current settings and we can advise back optimal settings for you to work with

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    Thanks LSD for your willingness to help out. Just for kicks I tried running memtest86+ with all sticks on optimized settings and it failed. Here are my current settings.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T)
    Robust Graphics Booster - Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio - 9x
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio - 0.0
    CPU Frequency - 3.00Ghz (333x9)

    CPU Host Clock Control - Disabled
    x CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) - 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) - 100
    C.I.A.2 - Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control
    CPU Clock Drive - 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive - 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew - 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew - 0ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhanced - Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) - Auto
    System Memory Multiplier - Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz):1066 - 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable: (SPD) - Auto

    Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time 5 - Auto
    x tRCD 5 - Auto
    x tRP 5 - Auto
    x tRAS 5 - Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Load Line Calibration - Disabled
    CPU Vcore: 1.23750v - Auto
    CPU Termination: 1.200v - Auto
    CPU PLL: 1.500v - Auto
    CPU Reference: 0.760v - Auto

    MCH Core: 1.100mv - Auto
    MCH Reference: 0.760v - Auto
    MCH/DRAM Reference: 0.900v - Auto
    ICH I/O: 1.500v - Auto
    ICH Core: 1.100v - Auto

    DRAM Voltage: 1.800v - Auto
    DRAM Termination: 0.900v - Auto
    Channel A Reference: 0.900v - Auto
    Channel B Reference: 0.900v - Auto

    I've got a few things coming in, a case and a new CPU cooler. For now I just want to be stable with the default speeds. Psycho did mention that I need to get a better CPU cooler if I want to overclock but that'll be after my 8GB are stable or would I need to overclock to be stable? I don't know but again I really appreciate your help. Thanks

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    Well you can get stable now if you want, then work on a overclock once you get your cooler and then likely you will of course need to work on getting stable again after that of course.

    This should be optimal for what you gave above, for 8GB

    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T)
    Robust Graphics Booster - Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio - 9x
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio - 0.0
    CPU Frequency - 3.00Ghz (333x9)

    CPU Host Clock Control - Disabled
    x CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) - 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) - 100
    C.I.A.2 - Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control
    CPU Clock Drive - 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive - 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew - 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew - 0ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhanced - Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) - Auto << Disabled
    System Memory Multiplier - Auto << Set 3.20B for 1066 or 2.40B for 800Mhz
    Memory Frequency (Mhz):1066 - 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable: (SPD) - Auto << Manual

    Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time 5
    x tRCD 5
    x tRP 5
    x tRAS 5


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 3-4
    tWTR.......................................... 3-8
    tWR............................................ 4-10
    tRFC........................................... 58-72
    tRTP...........................................3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066 (even at 800, 1066 would be best. If it fails to load set 800 though)

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Load Line Calibration - Disabled
    CPU Vcore: 1.23750v - Auto
    CPU Termination: 1.200v - Auto
    CPU PLL: 1.500v - Auto
    CPU Reference: 0.760v - Auto

    MCH Core: 1.100mv - Auto << 1.24-1.28
    MCH Reference: 0.760v - Auto
    MCH/DRAM Reference: 0.900v - Auto
    ICH I/O: 1.500v - Auto << 1.5-1.58
    ICH Core: 1.100v - Auto << 1.14-1.2

    DRAM Voltage: 1.800v - Auto << 1.9-2.0V
    DRAM Termination: 0.900v - Auto
    Channel A Reference: 0.900v - Auto
    Channel B Reference: 0.900v - Auto

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    I agree. It's essential to have (imo) a default speed profile for a number of reasons including diagnosing crashes of software to eliminate an over clock as a source of issues etc.

    After getting your 8GB stable (maybe) you'll have a better idea of what changes will be needed to re-stablise it at a higher CPU speed. It shouldn't be that difficult as you will merely be altering the RAM multiplier which will require minor tweaking. You need to concentrate on keeping the RAM running near stock speed, under never over IMO.

    As soon as you have your cooler will be the time to crank it up a notch. Until then, stable is the objective at stock clocks. You can if you like then precede to push the CPU a little. You can OC on that cooler but probably not very far.
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    Bios Profiles:
    Use them, you can save up to 8 different profiles. Use a profile naming convention that works for you. I suggest something like this:

    24B333x800.5F+ (+ = stable setup, 5F => 5-5-5-15 memory timing)
    26D333x888.4C? (? = bad and/or test setup and 4C = 4-4-4-12 memory timing)

    I don't use the memory speed, as it is implied by the cpu frequency and the memory multiplier. My naming convention is:
    494B20p9.52.5c+where:
    494 = cpu host frequency
    B20 = 2.0B system memory multiplier
    p9 = Static rRead Value = 9 (A=10, B=11, etc.)
    52 = tRFC
    5c = 5-5-4-12 primary memory timings
    + = stable config

    You can't delete an existing profile, but you can replace an existing profile later with different setup and just type over the old profile name with the new name. Flashing your bios will erase all your existing profiles. Make sure that you have a hard copy for each of your test scenarios, good and bad.

    From the main bios screen:

    F11: Save current bios settings
    F12: Load a saved bios profile
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
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    Just to throw something your way....when you are having trouble stablizing this 8gig system with all 4 sticks, try bumping the voltage of DRAM @ 2.0v. I have had a similar issue where these chips are made to run at 1.8v but somehow using all 4 slots means not enough power being supplied to all 4 slots and/or unable to syn the memories.

    G.Skill forums may have detail information on its safe voltage and product specs. but here is one of their response in specific to your G.Skill memories. Which I just pulled out of newegg's reviews under your ram specifics.

    Manufacturer Response:.
    Dear Customer

    You may need to raise the memory voltage up to 2.0V to operate above 1000MHz. The actual memory voltage provided by the motherboard may be slightly too low which is why you may be having issues running at 1100MHz. Northbridge/MCH Core also needs to be raised to 1.4V in order to stabilize the memory controller.

    Many motherboards can handle the full slots, it simply takes some configuring in your BIOS. We do warn people in our reviews, which is the main purpose for them. But like I said, by increasing the Northbridge voltage to 1.4V, it will stabilize the memory controller and as a result you should not have the "memory controller issue" anymore. If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know.

    Thank you
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    Quality and customer service are our top priorities.

    Tech Support Email: ustech@gskill.com
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    Guys, sorry for the disappearance the Holidays were pretty hectic. Hope everyone had a good xmas. So I got help from Silverhorse since we had similar parts (cpu/mobo/ram). The settings are pretty stable. I was able to run a few tests and seem to be stable. Here are my current settings.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [9x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0]
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.69Ghz (410x9)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [410]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100]
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [800mv]
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [900mv]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [0ps]
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [STANDARD]

    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Profile1]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [2.66D]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [1093]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5---------- : [5]
    tRCD ------------------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRAS ------------------- 15 ---------- : [15]
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR ---------------------13---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC -------------------68---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [2]

    Driving Strength Profiles [1066Mhz both channels]
    Driving Strength
    memory sub-timings when overclocking
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.23750V ---- : [1.28750V]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.280V]
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.630V]
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [0.795V]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.050V]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [0.810V]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------ : [0.960V]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V]
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [1.940V]
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Enabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Enabled]
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled]

    Any no no's that you guys can point out please do so but so far these settings are pretty stable, I checked memset and my ratio is 3:4. I'm hoping to achieve 1:1. I was reading up and it seems that the best way to achieve that would be to oc the cpu to 4.0Ghz and keep the ram at 800Mhz with a 4-4-4-12 timing as I was suggested. What do you guys think about that? Any better suggestions? Also I got a new cpu cooler. It is the Coolermaster V8. Would I be able to hit 4Ghz with this cooler? With the current settings I've got I idle at 34c and running linpack for an hour the highest it got was 62c. Please let me know what settings to change in order to get 1:1 ratio unless of course you have a better suggestion. Thanks again guys for your input and the help with this. Appreciated.

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