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    Default EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    I recently upgraded to i7 and i am stuck with what i am doing wrong.

    Below is the highest i tried for last night (still on stock cooling)
    memory multiplier = 8
    uncore frequency = 16
    QPI link speed = 36



    All of my specs are in my signature and the voltages are in the SS. Now after running this i decided to go back to 3.4Ghz and increase my ram a little and that is where the fun started.

    I changed the memory multiplier to 10, uncore frequency to 20 then tried 21 then tried 22 with no luck and i had QPI link speed to 36 with al of theses settings.
    The way i understood it is that the Uncore Frequency must always be at least 2x memory multi.

    I even tried 3.2Ghz with higher memory with no luck.
    Can anyone point out where i am going wrong?

    I will include a bios template later. Thanks for your time.
    Intel i7 920 D0 @ 4.2Ghz+HT 1.36V / Gigabyte EX58-UD4P / G-Skill 3x2 gig DDR 2133 PERFECT STORM / MSI 5870 1GIG / Corsair HX1000 Watt/ CM Stacker 830 /
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    I had what i thought was a stable oc so i changed the mem divider and uncore to suit and that is all i changed. below is the semi completed bios template.

    Code:
    GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Advanced CPU Features {Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Ratio*..............................:19
    CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:3.21
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:Disabled
    CPU Cores Enabled............................:ALL
    CPU Multi Threading..........................:Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...................:Disabled
    C3/C6/C7 State Support....................:Enabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor.........................:Enabled
    CPU EIST Function............................:Disabled
    Virtualization Technology...................:Disabled
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................:Enabled
    Uncore & QPI Features [Press Enter]
    QPI Link Speed*..............................:x36
    QPI Link Speed* .............(Ghz)....... :  (will check tonight)
    Uncore Frequency...........................:tried 20 then 21 then 22
    Uncore Frequency..............(Mhz).... :  (will check tonight)
    Isochronous Support.......................:Enabled
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    >>>>>Standard Clock Control
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control*..............:Enabled
    BCLK Frequency (Mhz)*...................:169
    PCI Exxpress Frequency (Mhz)...........:100
    C.I.A.2..........................................:Disabled
    >>>>>Standard Clock Control
    CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:900mV
    PCI  Express Clock Drive (mV)............:800mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
    IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
    Advanced Dram Features [Press Enter}
    Performance Enhance......................:Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)........:Disabled
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........:x10
    Memory Frequency (Mhz).................:1,690
    DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..........:Manual
    Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]
    >>>>>Channel A Standard Timing Control
    Cas Latency Time...........................:8
    tRCD............................................:8
    tRP..............................................:8
    tRAS............................................:24
    Advanced Voltage Control [Press Enter]
    >>>>CPU Voltages
    LoadLine Calibration.....................:Enabled
    CPU Vcore.................................:1.2
    QPI/VTT Voltage.........................:1.21
    CPU PLL.....................................:1.800v 
    >>>>>MCH/ICH Voltrage
    PCIE.........................................:1.500v 
    QPI PLL.....................................:1.100v 
    IOH Core...................................:1.110v
    ICH I/O.....................................:1.500v 
    ICH Core...................................:1.100v
    >>>>>Dram
    DRAM Voltage............................:1.640v
    DRAM Termination.......................:0.760v 
    Ch-A Data Vref...........................:0.740v
    Ch-B Data Vref...........................:0.740v
    Ch-C Data VRef..........................:0.740v
    Ch-A Address Vref......................:0.740v
    Ch-B Address Vref.......................:0.740v
    Ch-C Address VRef......................:0.740v
    Intel i7 920 D0 @ 4.2Ghz+HT 1.36V / Gigabyte EX58-UD4P / G-Skill 3x2 gig DDR 2133 PERFECT STORM / MSI 5870 1GIG / Corsair HX1000 Watt/ CM Stacker 830 /
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Do you want optimal settings for 3.2 or 3.4?

    3.4 may be pretty hot on a stock cooler, but if you want to try that let me know and then I will advise full settings back for you.

    For now, looks like you need much more QPI/Vtt, IOH, and ram voltage. Try 1.35-1.4 QPI/Vtt, 1.24 IOH, and 1.66 Vdimm

    I will advise full settings for you though, once you tell me for sure what you want to try and run

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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Do you want optimal settings for 3.2 or 3.4?

    3.4 may be pretty hot on a stock cooler, but if you want to try that let me know and then I will advise full settings back for you.

    For now, looks like you need much more QPI/Vtt, IOH, and ram voltage. Try 1.35-1.4 QPI/Vtt, 1.24 IOH, and 1.66 Vdimm

    I will advise full settings for you though, once you tell me for sure what you want to try and run
    I think 3.2Ghz will get me buy until i get my water up and running (after i get a conversion kit made for my GTZ). I am just trying to get a feel for how these cpu`s work. And i could t understand what is causing my current limits with my memory. I was shocked that it was so stable at 3,6Ghz with almost no voltage adjustments.

    Thanks for the reply. I know you probably get bugged all the time for almost the same thing.
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    3.6 with no voltage adjustments? Please do not use Auto voltages when overclocking :)

    Here, this should be optimal for 3.36 w/ ram at 1600 for now

    BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

    CPU = Model #
    Motherboard = Model, Revision #
    BIOS Version =
    Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

    Code:
    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36 or x44
    Uncore Frequency ..........................  (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1, 2x +2, ect - Higher means more Vdimm often) So use 20-22
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 160
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard] << Can use Turbo/Extreme later if you like
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]   << Set x10 for 1600Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 7/8
    tRCD ....................................... 7/8
    tRP ......................................... 7/8
    tRAS ....................................... 20/24
    
    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
    
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................ 5-12 (Odd # values likely will fail)
    tWTP .......................................    (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................   (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled] << Enabled
    CPU Vcore ............................... All up to your CPU, do not use Auto.   Maybe 1.2-1.3
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.25-1.38 (More if you use tighter ram timings as mentioned above, or higher uncore as mentioned above.  You may need 1.35-1.45+)
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.54
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.2-1.3
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.2-1.24
    ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.14-1.2
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Thanks for all the explanations on the BSOD error meanings. That will make life a whole lot easier. Mine was freezing on the Win 7 Loading screen.Always just before the little animation starts
    I only left the advanced ram options and the ram REF`s to AUTO the rest i set manually to the above values.
    I will try your suggested setting tonight and reply with results.
    Below is the info i know of but i will have to get the rest later.

    CPU: Intel 08 i7-920
    SLBEJ COSTA RICO
    2.66GHZ/8M/4.80/08
    Batch : 3942A497

    Motherboard:GA-EX58-UD4P Rev 1.0 / Bios F10h

    Ram: G-Skill 3x2 gig DDR 2133 PERFECT STORM OR
    G.Skill F3-17066CL9T-6GBPS DDR3 6144MB 3x2048MB PC17066 CL9
    Intel i7 920 D0 @ 4.2Ghz+HT 1.36V / Gigabyte EX58-UD4P / G-Skill 3x2 gig DDR 2133 PERFECT STORM / MSI 5870 1GIG / Corsair HX1000 Watt/ CM Stacker 830 /
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    When it freezes before windows this is normally not enough Vcore, but can also be too little QPI/Vtt or IOH

    Sorry about leaving the spec section in the above post, you are fine already, I know enough about your hardware I mean. Didn't mean to leave that in when I posted.

    Good luck with the tweaking and testing, let us know how you get along

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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    When it freezes before windows this is normally not enough Vcore, but can also be too little QPI/Vtt or IOH

    Sorry about leaving the spec section in the above post, you are fine already, I know enough about your hardware I mean. Didn't mean to leave that in when I posted.

    Good luck with the tweaking and testing, let us know how you get along
    No worries and Thanks. I kept most of my specs down so that i knew my batch number without having to remove the heat-sink.

    I think i also tried bumping my IOH up to 1.14V. I will start from scratch with your mentioned settings. Also i am using RAID, would that also need more voltage on one of the options in the bios?
    Last edited by jonathankru; 12-15-2009 at 07:24 PM.
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Thanks for the settings



    I forgot to change multiplier.
    One thing i did notice was the tWTP was set to 8 or 10 by default. Maybe that had something to do with my trouble.

    Thanks for all the explanations on the sub ram timings. I would have never been able to work those settings out and the way you laded it out made it very easy.

    Thanks. Will be re-posting once i have my water cooling working.

    Here is a render of what i am going to try make tomorrow

    Last edited by jonathankru; 12-16-2009 at 02:54 AM.
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and i7 920 question

    Well i got my water cooling in



    My only problem now is that when i tried to get 4.0Ghz to start i get a message about TPM on start up. Just after the bios splash screen starts up. It is fine with 3.2 ; 3.4 ; 3.6 but 4.0 is no joy. Can anyone elaborate on this?
    I used the settings that Lsdmeasap mentioned on a different thread(Not Lsdmeasap fault). I can post them if that will make things easier.
    Last edited by jonathankru; 12-17-2009 at 01:47 AM.
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