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    Default GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    I have a GA-MA78G-DS3HP with an extremely long POST and boot. I think I will have to RMA it, but want to make sure.

    Pretty generic setup except for an Intel x-25M SSD (with new 02HD firmware) as system disk

    Otherwise:
    Win 7 x64
    Phenom 2, 920
    8GB
    No OC, Factory def CMOS settings
    2 SATA West Digital drives.
    No RAID

    I had been very happy for a year with the system up until last week. I installed Win7 about a month ago and had a occasional (once ever 5-6 hours) pop from the optical audio. Installed the F5E bios update and it seem to help a little. I also installed the SSD a week ago. I had some corruption on starting about 4 days ago. I also started to have corruption on one of the SATA HDDs. I decided to move back to F4 on the BIOS (Qbios update) two days ago.

    Anyway, all this seemed to work out until I lost power yesterday. The machine would not boot or POST. It had spinning fans and blinkin lightzen on the RJ45 port, but not video. I started pulling drives and RAM and it appeared to hang just after CPU detection with a single stick of RAM. I went out to grab a bite and came back and it had posted but couldn't find and OS (expected - no drives installed).

    I plugged the system drive back in (SSD) and it appeared to hang on the splash screen. I waited for ~20 mins and then the bios reported memory correctly and Windows started to boot. After 10 mins, Windows booted.

    After sever permutations of updating the bios to F5E & F4, resting factory defaults, trying a different CPU, different RAM - everything I could think of - it still takes about 20 mins to POST. Once the OS boots, everything appears OK except for a controller warning.

    Now, what to do...

    I suspect that there is a problem on the SATA controller given the Windows Event log and drive corruption.

    Like I mentioned, I'd like to RMA it, but was wondering if you guys have ever seen something so strange and if there is anything obvious (or not) that I could try.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Default Re: GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    A few things come to mind. Have you tried changing your bios settings?
    Try changing Onchip SATA controller to AHCI.
    Code:
    Integrated Peripherals
    OnChip IDE Channel [Enabled]
    OnChip SATA Controller [Enabled]
    OnChip SATA Type [AHCI]
    x OnChip SATA Port4/5 Type IDE
    Onboard Audio Function [Enabled]
    OnChip USB Controller [Enabled]
    USB EHCI Controller [Enabled]
    USB Keyboard Support [Disabled]
    USB Mouse Support [Disabled]
    Legacy USB storage detect [Enabled]
    Onboard 1394 Function [Enabled]
    Onboard LAN Function [Enabled]
    �� SMART LAN [Press Enter]
    Onboard LAN Boot ROM [Disabled]
    Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
    Onboard Parallel Port [378/IRQ7]
    Parallel Port Mode [SPP]
    x ECP Mode Use DMA 3
    Another thing in Windows 7 click start search type without quotation marks "change power-saving settings" Then click change plan settings/ change advanced settings/ from balanced mode to High Performance. This should help with the sound poping. I don't know what your memory is so I cannot advise on those settings in bios. Try these changes and let us know how that comes out.
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    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
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    Default Re: GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    Thanks for you input artdrivers!

    Quote Originally Posted by artdrivers View Post
    Try changing Onchip SATA controller to AHCI.
    I attempted this setting and removed all SATA drives except my system drive in _0. It still had a very slow post (~20 mins) and Windows rebooted after about 2 mins of attempting to boot.

    I changed it back to IDENative and Windows would only boot in Safe Mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by artdrivers View Post


    Another thing in Windows 7 click start search type without quotation marks "change power-saving settings" Then click change plan settings change advanced settings/ from balanced mode to High Performance. Try these changes and let us know how that comes out.
    Thanks for the tip, I will try this once I get a Windows back.

    Re RAM, I'm not sure timings would help since it the default worked well for almost a year.

    Thanks again for the help.

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    Default Re: GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    You may want to Disable floppy support in bios just to see if it's searching for a floppy. This has worked for many with startup issues.
    Code:
    Standard CMOS Features
    Date (mm:dd:yy) Mon, Sep 15 2008
    Time (hh:mm:ss) 18:25:04
    �� IDE Channel 0 Master [None]
    �� IDE Channel 0 Slave [None]
    �� IDE Channel 1 Master [None]
    �� IDE Channel 1 Slave [None]
    �� IDE Channel 2 Master [None]
    �� IDE Channel 2 Slave [None]
    �� IDE Channel 3 Master [None]
    �� IDE Channel 3 Slave [None]
    Drive A [1.44M, 3.5"] change to NONE
    Floppy 3 Mode Support [Disabled]
    Halt On [All, But Keyboard]
    Base Memory 640K
    Extended Memory 382M
    Let us know how that works. You may need to do a Windows7 clean install.
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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    Default Re: GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    Quote Originally Posted by artdrivers View Post
    Let us know how that works. You may need to do a Windows7 clean install.
    I have disabled the floppy, IDE, USB, and Firewire and removed all drives and have a single stick of memory and it still has a 20 min post.

    It appears to me that something is timing out between detecting the CPU and the memory test, but I can't find a verbose or debug mode on the bios.

    Perhaps the first of the Dual Bios is corrupt and takes a long time out to hit the second one. That's a pure guess though.

    Do you know the sequence of steps on an Award BIOS? My Google foo can't seem to locate something that details the steps. Maybe if I could figure out what is causing the long delay, I could change it.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks again for your time!

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    Default Re: GA-MA78G-DS3HP 20 min POST - no beeps

    They say a picture is worth so many words. How many words is a video worth.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaDI7ty4MVY
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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