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    Default Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    This is my second EP45-UD3P board and I'm having a couple issues. You guys helped me out last time and I'm hoping you can do it again

    My problems are skipping audio, failing prime 95 blend test and the occasional crash during a game. I monitored temps during prime 95 and I don't even think I hit 50c so I don't think temps are my problem.

    System is NOT overclocked right now.

    Specs:
    Case: LIAN LI PC-A05NB
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
    CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500
    Ram: Patriot Viper II 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (PV224G8500ELK)
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512MB
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W

    Running Win 7 Pro x64

    I'd like to OC it but right now I'm mostly concerned with getting this audio skip to go away. I've updated all the drivers I can think of.

    Settings:

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:+0.<wbr>5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.5ghz - 333X7.5
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disable] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: This is on Auto . Should I set to 100?
    
    C.I.A.2 ..............................<wbr>...:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.........................<wbr>..: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ..............................<wbr>........... 5
    tRP'..........................<wbr>.................5
    tRAS..........................<wbr>................15
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................<wbr>.................4 Auto
    tWTR..........................<wbr>................4 Auto
    tWR...........................<wbr>.................8 Auto
    tRFC..........................<wbr>.................68 Auto
    tRTP..........................<wbr>.................4 Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0  Auto
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................<wbr>: Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<wbr>Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:<wbr>Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:<wbr>Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................<wbr>: Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<wbr>Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:<wbr>Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:<wbr>Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………....................<wbr>.....:Auto 
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Auto
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Auto
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......<wbr>: <<< Auto
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<wbr><<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V..........<wbr>.: Auto << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V..........<wbr>.; Auto<<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V..........<wbr>..: Auto <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........<wbr>.: Auto <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.10
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto 
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:Auto 
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]  (Should I keep this Disabled??)
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function......................<wbr>...: [Disabled] (Same here. disable?)
    Virtualization Technology................: Don't see this setting...?
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Also, I have set power settings to performance and uninstalled DES and EasyTune.

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Have you ran memtest86+? Does it pass or fail?

    Try increasing MCH Core, 1.2-1.24v, start low then add if still not stable. If more MCH Core does not help try less 1.05-0.95v.

    Fill your forum signature with your system specs, add board revision and BIOS version.
    A screen capture of MemSet main(click >>) and SPD(click spd) windows will also be helpful.

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Sorry I failed to mention that it has passed memtest86+ v 4.0. I ran it for about 2-3 hours, which I think was 5 passes.

    Board revision is 1.6 and the BIOS is the newest version, dated 2009/11/24.
    Case: LIAN LI PC-A05NB
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P rev. 1.6
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
    CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500
    Ram: Patriot Viper II 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (PV224G8500ELK)
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512MB
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2



    Case: LIAN LI PC-A05NB
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P rev. 1.6
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
    CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500
    Ram: Patriot Viper II 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (PV224G8500ELK)
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512MB
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Also try Driving Strength 1066 or 1200 for both channels.

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Skipping audio and game crashing are are hard to tell about.
    recheck all board connections?

    I have to leave my headset plugged into front usb permanently and just use the realtek audio manager to switch between spkr or headset output(may be nothing to do with your prob).

    Load and save optimised defaults and reboot :

    I dont follow "power settings set to performance" with easytune uninstalled.

    Do you mean memory performance set to [standard]

    Here are my Q8200-Q8400 settings which I dont mind posting now they worky looong time:
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/q840...igh-fsb-37179/

    settings may not be much use to you right now tho.
    The audio skip thing,I remember seeing a problem like that way back in the forum.. it may have been on a different board tho ga-73pvm s2 i think and I dont remember the solution.
    the game crashing and audio skip are related ? do u get gx skipping also?
    check out your dx installation,see if its working properly(run dx diagnostics) or whatever the equivalent is in windows 7.
    I had to install older nvidia gx card drivers on my machine 1.182 i think .. the later ones were causing me problems.

    However the prime 95 testing is getting errors,so it could be more basic:

    After you load and save the optimised defaults,if you still have problems you could manually set the memory to run at 800mhz for testing.you can see the profile for it..the jedec0# :
    set mch latch to auto then use the 2:40B multiplier. set ram v to auto it should only need the ~1.8v at that speed.
    Still tho it should work ok with the optimised defaults.
    If you dont want to try the 800mhz memory just yet you could as suggested above raise the mch V a bit and also the ram voltage you have set at 2.1,thats what u have set in bios but the memory may be only recieving 2.06-2.08v try 2.14v in bios in case it needs that to hold 1066mhz under heavy testing(prime blend).

    The settings you are wondering about to disable or not..you should only really need to disable those when you start off on your overclocking journey.
    For now I would leave everything at standard and try the optimised defaults first.then perhaps go for the mch v increase and test,then if no joy the ram voltage to 2.14. etc

    The virtualisation technology .. Q8200 doesnt have it,Q8300 is probably the same.Q8400 does have it.
    Its not a huge deal unless u want to run an older version of windows or similar inside a shell for older games/software etc.

    xmp or if you like enhanced performance profile for the memory .Most recommendations are to leave it turned off in bios. However Ive tried it and it works ok AT STOCK SETTINGS.
    If it was me Id try it just for experimentation.Nothing bad is going to happen at those speeds.If you do try it the board should read your EPP2# from the memory and apply the settings.
    If it works ok see what settings are in memset when you boot into windows ,write them down or do a capture (dont hit the save button in memset)and remember to turn xmp off again when you start to overclock.

    nb One of the reasons I mentioned trying the memory at 800mhz is you may not be able to reach your max stable cpu overclock (im guessing around 3.75 Ghz),with your memory at 1066+..but thats for later..
    Last edited by kick; 12-29-2009 at 06:02 PM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Thanks a lot kick. I just got in to work right now so I'll try your suggestions when I get home this evening.
    Case: LIAN LI PC-A05NB
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P rev. 1.6
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
    CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500
    Ram: Patriot Viper II 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (PV224G8500ELK)
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512MB
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W

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    Default Re: Need help with EP45-UD3P w/ 4GB Patriot Viper 2

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    Skipping audio and game crashing are are hard to tell about.
    recheck all board connections?
    I'll recheck but the skipping is very random and it's not just skipping, it's more of a ERRRRRRRRRRRRR. If that makes any sense.

    I dont follow "power settings set to performance" with easytune uninstalled.
    I meant windows power settings are set to performance.


    settings may not be much use to you right now tho.
    The audio skip thing,I remember seeing a problem like that way back in the forum.. it may have been on a different board tho ga-73pvm s2 i think and I dont remember the solution.
    the game crashing and audio skip are related ? do u get gx skipping also?
    check out your dx installation,see if its working properly(run dx diagnostics) or whatever the equivalent is in windows 7.
    I had to install older nvidia gx card drivers on my machine 1.182 i think .. the later ones were causing me problems.
    No graphics skipping but I'll try running dx diagnostics.

    However the prime 95 testing is getting errors,so it could be more basic:

    After you load and save the optimised defaults,if you still have problems you could manually set the memory to run at 800mhz for testing.you can see the profile for it..the jedec0# :
    set mch latch to auto then use the 2:40B multiplier. set ram v to auto it should only need the ~1.8v at that speed.
    Still tho it should work ok with the optimised defaults.
    If you dont want to try the 800mhz memory just yet you could as suggested above raise the mch V a bit and also the ram voltage you have set at 2.1,thats what u have set in bios but the memory may be only recieving 2.06-2.08v try 2.14v in bios in case it needs that to hold 1066mhz under heavy testing(prime blend).

    The settings you are wondering about to disable or not..you should only really need to disable those when you start off on your overclocking journey.
    For now I would leave everything at standard and try the optimised defaults first.then perhaps go for the mch v increase and test,then if no joy the ram voltage to 2.14. etc

    The virtualisation technology .. Q8200 doesnt have it,Q8300 is probably the same.Q8400 does have it.
    Its not a huge deal unless u want to run an older version of windows or similar inside a shell for older games/software etc.

    xmp or if you like enhanced performance profile for the memory .Most recommendations are to leave it turned off in bios. However Ive tried it and it works ok AT STOCK SETTINGS.
    If it was me Id try it just for experimentation.Nothing bad is going to happen at those speeds.If you do try it the board should read your EPP2# from the memory and apply the settings.
    If it works ok see what settings are in memset when you boot into windows ,write them down or do a capture (dont hit the save button in memset)and remember to turn xmp off again when you start to overclock.

    nb One of the reasons I mentioned trying the memory at 800mhz is you may not be able to reach your max stable cpu overclock (im guessing around 3.75 Ghz),with your memory at 1066+..but thats for later..

    Thanks for the rest of your tips. I am gradually trying them. When you mentioned trying to run at 800, I realized that I have a 2GB PC6400 set so maybe I will try those to see if my results are any different.
    Case: LIAN LI PC-A05NB
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P rev. 1.6
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300
    CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500
    Ram: Patriot Viper II 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) (PV224G8500ELK)
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 750GB
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTS 250 512MB
    PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W

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