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    Quote Originally Posted by ed1 View Post
    Wazza,

    What will I improve if I change CPU voltage to "Normal" and qpi on 1.30v? Should I make that change only if overclocking higher than the present 3.150Mhz?

    I do have Win7 and am using Balanced power setting. So, should I leave C1e off? Should I turn it on if overclocking higher?

    I am very much a novice at this. I was shooting for an initial target of 3.4Mhz but have stopped at 3.15Mhz so far.

    Thanks.
    well the lower cpu volts the better as "normal" is 1.18750v but it wont use that much,and qpi 1.30000v is what i use for 3.8ghz maybe you could lower it a little but 1.3 wont hurt at 3.1ghz,no dont enable c1e if you have win7 as it might cause inteferance noise only slightly,disable it and keep on balanced setting as it will reduce clock speed at idle but give you 3.1ghz at load,when clocking higher than 3.8ghz its best to disable c1e,with a d0 chip you should be able to clock to 3.8ghz with those settings ram volt at 1.66 cpu normal and qpi 1.3
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    well the lower cpu volts the better as "normal" is 1.18750v but it wont use that much,and qpi 1.30000v is what i use for 3.8ghz maybe you could lower it a little but 1.3 wont hurt at 3.1ghz,no dont enable c1e if you have win7 as it might cause inteferance noise only slightly,disable it and keep on balanced setting as it will reduce clock speed at idle but give you 3.1ghz at load,when clocking higher than 3.8ghz its best to disable c1e,with a d0 chip you should be able to clock to 3.8ghz with those settings ram volt at 1.66 cpu normal and qpi 1.3

    Wazza,

    My Bios shows 1.30000v in the "Normal" column for CPU voltage. I am presently running it set at 1.28175v - CPUZ shows 1.248v. You mentioned 1.1875v as normal. I think I have read elsewhere that the i920 normal voltage is 1.2000v. Now I am not sure. Do you have any more info on this?

    What is the difference between C1E/Win7-balanced and CPU EIST? Do they both reduce CPU clock speed when demand is low?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed1 View Post
    Wazza,

    My Bios shows 1.30000v in the "Normal" column for CPU voltage. I am presently running it set at 1.28175v - CPUZ shows 1.248v. You mentioned 1.1875v as normal. I think I have read elsewhere that the i920 normal voltage is 1.2000v. Now I am not sure. Do you have any more info on this?

    What is the difference between C1E/Win7-balanced and CPU EIST? Do they both reduce CPU clock speed when demand is low?

    Thanks.
    maybe your board bios is different to mine as i have ud5,but the normal cpu voltage on mine is 1.18750 try setting it to that in the bios as thats what my cpu uses,eist and c1e reduce clocks at idle saving power and heat,you can keep eist enabled but like i said the balanced option in win7 does the same job as c1e but without the motherboard squeal on some mb's so you can keep it disabled in bios,ive looked in easytune and in prime95 under full load my cpu uses 1.15200v so i would set it at 1.18750 youll find it wont use that amount under full load and thats at 3.8ghz
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    maybe your board bios is different to mine as i have ud5,but the normal cpu voltage on mine is 1.18750 try setting it to that in the bios as thats what my cpu uses,eist and c1e reduce clocks at idle saving power and heat,you can keep eist enabled but like i said the balanced option in win7 does the same job as c1e but without the motherboard squeal on some mb's so you can keep it disabled in bios,ive looked in easytune and in prime95 under full load my cpu uses 1.15200v so i would set it at 1.18750 youll find it wont use that amount under full load and thats at 3.8ghz
    Wazza,

    Well, I've reduced the CPU voltage to 1.1875v and I am very surprised to see that, so far, the system is behaving correctly. I haven't put any severe load on it yet, so no final conclusion can be reached. But, I was half-expecting it to not even boot!

    I notice that with small loads like opening programs, both CoreTemp and RealTemp clearly show that the throttled down CPU spins up to a quick 3.150Mhz frequency just for a second or two at a time. These advanced power technologies are really working!

    And, just as you said, CPU-Z is now reporting core voltage to be 1.152v. That is at a throttled idle, though. I haven't noticed it change under load, but it would have to, wouldn't it, as the CPU frequency adjust higher?

    One thing that is a bit puzzling is that the core temps do not seem to have dropped at all with a significant reduction in CPU voltage. CPU-Z is now reporting 1.152v at rest, before it was 1.248v. But no temp drop??? Still showing between 35*C and 39*C at idle with case closed, a good cooler, and room temp about 66*F. Perhaps there is no core temp change because I made no change in QPI voltage.

    Sorry to hijack this thread. I hope the original poster can benefit from this discussion and posts back with his successful results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed1 View Post
    Wazza,

    Well, I've reduced the CPU voltage to 1.1875v and I am very surprised to see that, so far, the system is behaving correctly. I haven't put any severe load on it yet, so no final conclusion can be reached. But, I was half-expecting it to not even boot!

    I notice that with small loads like opening programs, both CoreTemp and RealTemp clearly show that the throttled down CPU spins up to a quick 3.150Mhz frequency just for a second or two at a time. These advanced power technologies are really working!

    And, just as you said, CPU-Z is now reporting core voltage to be 1.152v. That is at a throttled idle, though. I haven't noticed it change under load, but it would have to, wouldn't it, as the CPU frequency adjust higher?

    One thing that is a bit puzzling is that the core temps do not seem to have dropped at all with a significant reduction in CPU voltage. CPU-Z is now reporting 1.152v at rest, before it was 1.248v. But no temp drop??? Still showing between 35*C and 39*C at idle with case closed, a good cooler, and room temp about 66*F. Perhaps there is no core temp change because I made no change in QPI voltage.
    well maybe you need to enable c1e and then it will throttle cpu voltage but it should do that anyway in win7 balanced power option but my cpu is set to normal if its higher than that it wont throttle the cpu voltage,try with normal setting i know its 1.3 on your board but it might throttle it using alot less try it and see if it uses less
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    well maybe you need to enable c1e and then it will throttle cpu voltage but it should do that anyway in win7 balanced power option but my cpu is set to normal if its higher than that it wont throttle the cpu voltage,try with normal setting i know its 1.3 on your board but it might throttle it using alot less try it and see if it uses less
    Well, I've tried two things. Setting C1E to Enabled made no change at all. The frequencies, voltages and temps all read the same.

    Leaving C1E enabled and changing CPU voltage to "Normal" reduced the core voltage shown in CPU-Z even further to 0.928v. So, now I have gone from 1.2875v originally to 1.152v when set to 1.875v and down now to 0.928v when CPU voltage is set to "Normal". This is amazing if there are no adverse effects on stability. None so far with minimal loads.

    None of these core voltage changes have reduced either core temps as reported in CoreTemp, or TDP as reported in CoreTemp. Is TDP measuring something else entirely? TDP is 147 watts at brief load at 3.150Mhz, and drops to 43.8 watts at idle at 1800Mhz. No further wattage or temp reductions at idle regardless of the changes I've made to CPU voltage.

    Is there any explanation for the lack of temp and TDP reductions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed1 View Post
    Well, I've tried two things. Setting C1E to Enabled made no change at all. The frequencies, voltages and temps all read the same.

    Leaving C1E enabled and changing CPU voltage to "Normal" reduced the core voltage shown in CPU-Z even further to 0.928v. So, now I have gone from 1.2875v originally to 1.152v when set to 1.875v and down now to 0.928v when CPU voltage is set to "Normal". This is amazing if there are no adverse effects on stability. None so far with minimal loads.

    None of these core voltage changes have reduced either core temps as reported in CoreTemp, or TDP as reported in CoreTemp. Is TDP measuring something else entirely? TDP is 147 watts at brief load at 3.150Mhz, and drops to 43.8 watts at idle at 1800Mhz. No further wattage or temp reductions at idle regardless of the changes I've made to CPU voltage.

    Is there any explanation for the lack of temp and TDP reductions?
    it will use less wattage at lower ghz speeds,maybe its at the lowest on temps anyway at 3.1 ghz,youll see a big difference on temps at 3.8ghz remember those settings will take you to 3.8ghz,what temps are you getting now? i idle at 34-36c,i think you need cpu voltage on normal for it to throttle,so c1e disabled should still reduce volts with balanced win7 setting
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    I have a UD7 board and 6GB Mushkin 998692 RAM (same RAM with different heat spreader). I am just learning about overclocking and at first would not boot the system when just plugging in aggressive sytem settings. I think you need to start out with a low overclock and work up slowly from there. Make sure you are using the latest bios. I am using the F3c beta bios without problems.

    Now, I have the RAM running at 6-7-6-18 @1500Mhz with these settings:

    CPU clock ratio: 20
    Intel Turbo boost: Enabled
    CPU Multithreading: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E): Disabled
    CPU EIST function: Enabled - also works with Disabled
    Virtualization tech.: Disabled
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT: Enabled

    QPI Link Speed: x36
    Uncore frequency: 20
    Base Clock control: Enabled
    BCLK Frequency (Mhz): 150
    Isochronous Frequency: Enabled

    PCI Express Frequency: 100
    C.I.A.2: Disabled

    CPU Clock Drive: 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive: 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew: 0ps
    IOH Clock Skew: 0ps

    DRAM:
    Performance Enhance: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile XMP: Disabled
    System Memory Multiplier: 10
    DRAM Timing Selectable: Expert

    Enter DRAM timings: 6-7-6-18
    Set Command Rate for each module: 1

    Voltage:
    Load Line Calibration: Level 1
    CPU Vcore: 1.275v works, but you can go higher - try anything up to 1.3v at first.
    QPI/Vtt voltage: 1.2v - should work but you can go higher - if not, try up to 1.25 for this overclock.
    CPU PLL: 1.80v

    MCH/IOH:
    PCIE: Auto
    QPI PLL: 1.14v
    IOH Core: 1.10v
    ICH I/O: 1.50v
    ICH Core: 1.14v

    DRAM:
    DRAM voltage: 1.62v - This or even lower should work, but if system has problems, try 1.64v or 1.66v (but not higher!!). Once system is stable, you can try to lower DRAM voltage.
    Other DRAM settings: AUTO

    I have an Intel i920 D0 stepping. What do you have?

    These settings will give you a CPU frequency of 3.150Mhz (with Turbo on) and a RAM frequency of 1500Mhz (150 Bclk x 10 multiplier). If this works, and it should, you can adjust Bclk higher and possibly some of the voltages (CPU, QPI).

    When you get to 160 Bclk, your RAM will be at 1600Mhz. I haven't reached there yet. My system was not stable when I just plugged in settings with very high voltages and 200 Blck. But it is running very stable now and when I have time, I will try to go higher.

    Let us know if you are making progress.
    I have an Intel i7 920 DO stepping too. Im novice at overclocking so I will do it with calm. The first thing im going to do will be try your settings and tell to you the results (i havent had time yet). then, i think i can try enabling C1E as i notice with yours replies but, for now im getting lost reading some things (think i dont speak English very well :P) and much things are new for me so... be patient with me jeje

    thanks a lot for help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by javi View Post
    I have an Intel i7 920 DO stepping too. Im novice at overclocking so I will do it with calm. The first thing im going to do will be try your settings and tell to you the results (i havent had time yet). then, i think i can try enabling C1E as i notice with yours replies but, for now im getting lost reading some things (think i dont speak English very well :P) and much things are new for me so... be patient with me jeje

    thanks a lot for help me.
    just let me know how you get on,i can always use a translator if you need help understanding, your english is good
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    Quote Originally Posted by javi View Post
    I have an Intel i7 920 DO stepping too. Im novice at overclocking so I will do it with calm. The first thing im going to do will be try your settings and tell to you the results (i havent had time yet). then, i think i can try enabling C1E as i notice with yours replies but, for now im getting lost reading some things (think i dont speak English very well :P) and much things are new for me so... be patient with me jeje

    thanks a lot for help me.

    Javi, I looked at my settings again and noticed that I did not remember correctly a couple of them. Here are the ones I am actually running at the moment:

    QPI PLL: 1.10v
    ICH Core: 1.10v

    I did have them both at 1.14v at one time, but am now running with 1.10v. With higher overclocks, it may be necessary to raise them again later.

    Also, as you see from the above posts, I have been able to reduce the CPU Vcore to 1.875v and the system is running well, but I have not tested it yet under heavy load.
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