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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    There are still a lot of settings in that profile that are a little out. For instance the clock drive settings should be 800 and 900. Setting MCH clock drive to 700 at this kind of speed will yield no results and may actually have a destablizing effect. You also don't need 1.4V CPU Termination for any clock speed. My Q8200 was fine with 1.28V. More is not better in the case of CPU Termination and reference voltages, like it is with Vcore. In these cases you need the correct voltage setting rather than more volts.
    Where is the MCH clock drive? I don't see it haha. And you say the clock drives should be running at 800/900 but you wrote 800/700 in the code text below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    Altering RAM timings is for stability not for temperature. To be honest, if you need to raise timings to 6-6-6-18 then you'd probably be better off with a lower OC at 5-5-5 (run benchmarks to possibly confirm this). There comes a point where no matter the voltage and timings, the RAM simply won't go any faster. Like Kick said, DDR940 is significantly higher than DDR-900. RAM can be so sensitive that DDR900 may work fine and DDR904 may fail, let alone a 40MHz increase.
    Alright, I'll run hella tests when I break 900 then.

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    Below is a slightly altered profile that I'd use to test 3.0GHz after first loading Optimized Defaults to restore the right clock drive and other hidden settings:

    Code:
     MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] 
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [ 7 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [+0.0] 
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.01GHz( 430X7)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [ 430]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] < Higher is generally pointless
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [ 800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [ 700Mv]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [   0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [   0ps]
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------ : [Standard] <Turbo when RAM OCing is a recipe for disaster
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch --------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ------------- : [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ------------: 800 860
    DRAM Timing Selectable --SPD---------- : [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRCD -------------------- 5 ---------- : [   5]
    tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [   5]
    tRAS ------------------- 15 ---------- : [  15]
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    tWTR -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    tWR --------------------- 6 -----------: [8]
    tRFC --------------------52 ---------- : [68]
    tRTP -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 -----------: [2]
    Driving Strength Profiles    
    Driving Strength --------- :  [1066]
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value ------ 9 ------------ : [10]
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------9------- : [10]
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal ------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.28750V ---- : [1.29375V] 
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V - ---- : [1.260V] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V ---- - : [1.590V] 
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V --- -- : [Auto] Auto is fine at these speeds
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.280V] Go up to 1.38 max but don't start 
    there, raise if needed
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------- : [Auto] < Never had good results setting this
    manually, leave on auto.
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.00V] 
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto] See MCH/DRAm Ref
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled] < NEVER disable this. In the event your 
    CPU overheats, this is the only thing that will save it.
    CPU EIST Function ---------------------- : [Disabled]
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]
    USB Storage Function ------------------ : [Disabled]
    You can re-enable speedstep etc when you hit your OC target/max.
    Whoa, I did not see this in the post. It only showed the first couple lines of the code but when I quoted it, I see the whole thing haha. I already ran 70 runs of Intel Burn Test and 8 hours of prime @ 3.11ghz. Should I still run these settings?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    Now you're trying 3.0GHz, it's worth running prime. I'd leave the Large FFT test going over night. this is generally enough stress combined with IBT to confirm CPU stability and is also more stressful on RAM/MCH as well as cooling.
    check above

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    tRead may actually be able to be lowered later. I ran 486 FSB with tRead = 9 on 2.00D quite comfortably.

    Realistically I can't see you getting more than about 3.1-3.2GHz with this RAM. You'll be limited to around 3.4GHz +/- 100MHz anyway, so changing the RAM probably isn't worth it. Q8200's aren't the best over clockers.
    I tried running tRead lower to 8 and it hardlocked on me =[ Haha it's ok. I knew I wasn't going to get a good oc, I just wanted to see with my own eyes the difference between 8200 and 6600 (my little bro has the 6600 and paid for this cpu so I'm fine =])

    EDIT: I don't know why all your coded text isn't showing so I'll just copy paste it here for others to see.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [ 7 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [+0.0]
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.01GHz( 430X7)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [ 430]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] < Higher is generally pointless
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [ 800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [ 700Mv]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [ 0ps]
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------ : [Standard] <Turbo when RAM OCing is a recipe for disaster
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch --------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ------------- : [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ------------: 800 860
    DRAM Timing Selectable --SPD---------- : [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRCD -------------------- 5 ---------- : [ 5]
    tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [ 5]
    tRAS ------------------- 15 ---------- : [ 15]
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    tWTR -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    tWR --------------------- 6 -----------: [8]
    tRFC --------------------52 ---------- : [68]
    tRTP -------------------- 3 ---------- : [4]
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 -----------: [2]
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : [1066]
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value ------ 9 ------------ : [10]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------9------- : [10]

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal ------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.28750V ---- : [1.29375V]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V - ---- : [1.260V]
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V ---- - : [1.590V]
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V --- -- : [Auto] Auto is fine at these speeds
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.280V] Go up to 1.38 max but don't start
    there, raise if needed
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------- : [Auto] < Never had good results setting this
    manually, leave on auto.
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V]
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.00V]
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto] See MCH/DRAm Ref
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled] < NEVER disable this. In the event your
    CPU overheats, this is the only thing that will save it.
    CPU EIST Function ---------------------- : [Disabled]
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Disabled]
    USB Storage Function ------------------ : [Disabled]
    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P Rev#: 1.6
    Bios: FB
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz @ 3.11Ghz
    Freezer Pro 7 Rev.2 @ 2500rpm 45CFM
    G.Skill PC2-6400 4x1Gb DDR2-800 (5-5-5-15 @ 2.1)
    EVGA 9800 GTX+
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    it says 800/700 in the profile because I just used cut and paste. I was sure to be clear in the post though that you need to load Optimized Defaults.

    There is a forum bug that hides a portion of the text in code marks if certain punctuation is used without entering correct spaces. I'll try and fix it.

    For stability tests, yes, run Prime Large fft again over night as the settings are now different. Save the settings for 3GHZ to a profile and continue with your OC for now. Tonight you can then save your progress, reload 3GHz settings and test while you sleep.
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    it says 800/700 in the profile because I just used cut and paste. I was sure to be clear in the post though that you need to load Optimized Defaults.

    There is a forum bug that hides a portion of the text in code marks if certain punctuation is used without entering correct spaces. I'll try and fix it.

    For stability tests, yes, run Prime Large fft again over night as the settings are now different. Save the settings for 3GHZ to a profile and continue with your OC for now. Tonight you can then save your progress, reload 3GHz settings and test while you sleep.
    Ah, alright. also, one more quick question. How do you save a bios lul. I went to f1 for help and it said press f11 to save to cmos as bios profile but after I pressed f11, nothing happened

    EDIT: Nvm I got it now
    Last edited by KinkiKowBoi; 01-16-2010 at 02:00 AM.
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    It should be [F11] to save and [F12] to load. After hitting F1 you will see a list of BIOS profiles, simply type a name for the profile eg "3ghz OC" then hit enter.
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    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
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    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    Ok, optimized defaults, upped it from 3.01 to 3.11 ghz. ran 50 tests of ibt with no errors. leaving prime95 on now for the next 3 days since I'm going back home for break. I'll let you guys know how it goes in 3 days time! thanks again for everything :D
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    No problem. Let us know how it goes, and enjoy your break!
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    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
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    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] 
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [ 7 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [+0.0] 
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.11GHz(445X7)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [ 445]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [102]
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : [ 800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : [ 900Mv]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [   0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : [   0ps]
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) -------------: 800 890
    DRAM Timing Selectable --SPD----------- : [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRCD -------------------- 5 ---------- : [   5]
    tRP --------------------- 5 ---------- : [   5]
    tRAS ------------------- 15 ---------- : [  15]
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD -------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR -------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- 6 -----------: [Auto]
    tRFC --------------------52 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP -------------------- 3 ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 -----------: [Auto]
    Driving Strength Profiles    
    Driving Strength --------- :  [Auto]
    Channel A
    Channel A Timing Settings  [Press Enter]
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Static tRead Value ------ 11 ------------ : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -- 6 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -- 6 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -- 5 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -- 8 ------------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    DDR Write Training---------------------- : [Auto]
    Channel B
    Channel B Timing Settings  [Press Enter]
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Static tRead Value --------------11------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -----------6------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -----------6------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ------------5----- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------8------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    DDR Write Training---------------------- : [Auto]
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal ------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.28750V ---- : [1.32500V] 
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.28V] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.500V] 
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [0.835V] 
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.380V] 
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [0.850V]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------- : [1.000V]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.10V] 
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [1.000V]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Disabled]
    CPU EIST Function ---------------------- : [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] Dont have
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled]
    USB Storage Function ------------------ : [Enabled]
    __________________
    Alright, I've been running tests and apparently this is the "max" I can get it to run at without getting any errors in ibt at 75% ram use. I did a couple volt changes here and there (increased everything but dram v) but it still wouldn't run cleanly. At this point, will advanced timings do anything?
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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    Quote Originally Posted by KinkiKowBoi View Post
    It still shows up as DDR3. Looks the same as the screenshots I posted.
    Supposed to be fixed, the link to MemSet is the same so just d/l it again.

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    Default Re: Question concerning my RAM and Q8200

    well the 75% usage isnt all that much use to you ,you dont want to get some odd errors later on.
    assuming for the moment that the cpu core V1.325 has you covered for a bit more cpu speed,that the mch V is the same still looks a little high but maybe u need it for 4sticks.

    Then there are 2 more things to try for now,memory voltage and memory timing.

    You have 2.1V set in bios(approx 2.08V actual,see what voltage it shows for ram in the pc health section of the bios)
    Do some memory bandwidth/latency tests,utilities such as everest,and sisoft sandra,and cacheburst 32 will give you those results.
    You seem to have determined,kinda ,that 890mhz is the max stable memory speed u can get on 5-5-5-15 timings with pl 9 and 2.1v.

    On my particular setup it would be approximately the same but with 4-4-4-12 timings.
    Sooo leave everything as is except for the main memory timings.Change 5-5-5-15 to 6-6-6-18 .you could mess around with 5-5-5-18,6-5-5-15 etc ,but just loosen the timing out to standard figures.
    Then add in 10 mhz cpu ref and see if it boots up ok etc and test.
    If it does try another 5 mhz boot it up and test.
    At this point or around 460 mhz your increase in fsb speed may negate the performance drop of loosening out the timings.Do some bandwidth/latency tests to see.
    The cpu would also be running 100mhz faster, ok 105mhz .

    If you get that far ok,you may have to bump up something for a further increase in cpu ref.My guess would be .02-.04 dramV.but Its possible cpu V might need .01V.Hopefully mch V wouldnt need an increase.
    If you can get to 470/475 cpu ref,with 6-6-6-18 timings and without going crazy on voltages you should have a faster pc than 445 cpu ref and 5-5-5-15.
    That is memory dependent tho and maybe the memory as stated above just wont go faster no matter how much you loosen the timings.

    Another option would be to set pl(static read) at 10,leave the main cas timings as they are and see if you can get more speed.

    The more minor memory timings ..well they may or may not affect things,tRFC you could set out to 64 or 66 but that will actually decrease memory performance unless you are running it at increased speed.
    You could drop it down to 48 from 52 and the memory may still run fine at that speed but performance increase wont really be noticeable.

    Because of 8200 lowish multiplier its harder to get 1ghz over standard clock speed,but even at 3.1 everything must be a lot faster /snappier.
    Last edited by kick; 01-19-2010 at 07:29 PM.
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