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    Default Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    Hi all,

    I posted a similar question on another thread but I guess no one has bothered to look at that thread so I am creating a new one.

    I am using Corsair RAM 2gbs X 2gbs. I am currently using only 1 stick to get the system up and running on a fresh installation of Vista 64 bit.

    The ram is rated at 1333 mhz @ 1.7 volts with 9-9-9-24 2T. At the stock settings Vista will not even install from the Boot CD. At 1066 mhz it will fail (but not freeze) at the last step of the Vista installation (at "completing install")-the three little dots will stop refreshing and it will just sit there at that stage. The mouse is responsive but the installation never completes.
    Downclocking the RAM to 800 mhz yields a successful installation of Vista.

    What I would like to know, is this because the board/cpu and RAM hate each other or if the board/cpu are just defective? I cannot accept the system being stable only at 800 mhz, but I do not want to go buy new ram (I will follow the QVL) unless I am sure that is the culprit. I cannot accept a system that will only run stable with ram clocked at 800 mhz.

    Specs are as follows. All the following hardware is from a previous system (EXCEPT the motherboard and CPU of course), and all are working - only question is the RAM compatibility, but it has always passed memtest checks. I moved from an ASUS 790i SLI.

    AMD Phemon II 965 BE
    GA MA790FXT-UD5P (bios ver F7)
    2X CM3X2048-1333C9DHX
    Thermaltake 1000W PSU
    Creative XFI Championship ED (on PCI-X slot)
    XFX Nvidia GTX 295


    Please help!

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    Im sorry the numbers on that RAM left be pondering Did you mean the memory is TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX? This is intel based memory. The memory numbers you provided don't show on Corsairs parts list. Welcome to Corsair :: Memory Configurator You may need to replace that memory with AMD based memory. Above is a memory configurator. Just select "motherboard", "Gigabyte", and GA-MA790FXT-UD5P It will list the supported memory for that motherboard ---->
    http://www.corsair.com/configurator/...aspx?id=867642 , or cpu.----> http://www.corsair.com/products/phenomii/default.aspx
    Last edited by artdrivers; 01-08-2010 at 10:12 AM.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    TW3X4G1333C9DHX is correct as it is the name for the matched pair of 2048s. In my earlier post I am reading off the name on the individual sticks.

    Specs are exactly the same

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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P This is supported on AMD
    TW3X4G1333C9DHX DDR3-1333 (XMS3-10666C9) 4GB Kit (2x2GB) 1.5v 9-9-9-24-2T

    Intel P55 Chipset This is supported on intel
    TWIN3X2048-1333C9DHX DDR3-1333(DHX3-10666C9) 2GB Kit (2x1GB) 1.5v 9-9-9-24-2T

    This is why I asked. Do you need to double check?
    Here is something you should try. Go into your bios and set it to perform optimized defaults
    Take memory out of slots 1 & 2 (the blue slots) While you have them out write the numbers down. Install them in 3 & 4 (the white slots) Boot back into bios and post your PC Health Status I will provide you with a template just get the settings from your bios and put them on this template then post it for us.
    Code:
    PC Health Status
    Reset Case Open Status [Disabled]
    Case Opened No
    Vcore 1.376V
    DDR3 1.5V 1.536V
    +3.3V 3.328V
    +12V 12.112V
    Current System Temperature 30oC
    Current CPU Temperature 47oC
    Current CPU FAN Speed 3375 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN1 Speed 0 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN2 Speed 0 RPM
    Current POWER FAN Speed 0 RPM
    CPU Warning Temperature [Disabled]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN1 Fail Warning [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN2 Fail Warning [Disabled]
    POWER FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control [Enabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Mode [Auto]
    System Smart FAN Control [Enabled]
    Also if you can get the MB intellegent tweaker as well
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto] 2700 Mhz
    CPU NorthBridge Freq. [Auto] 2000 Mhz
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    PCIE Clock (MHz) [Auto]
    HT Link Frequency [Auto]
    Set Memory Clock [Auto]
    x Memory Clock x6.66 1333Mhz
     DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    ******** System Voltage Optimized ********
    System Voltage Control [Auto]
    x DDR3 Voltage Control Auto
    x NB Voltage Control Auto
    x SB/HT Voltage Control Auto
    x NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage Control Auto
    x CPU NB VID Control Auto
    x CPU Voltage Control Auto
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3500V
    Can you grab thos ram timings too?
    Code:
    DRAM Configuration
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    Set Memory Clock [Auto]
    x Memory Clock x6.66 1333Mhz
    DDR3 Timing Items [Auto] SPD Auto
    x CAS# latency Auto 7T 5T
    x RAS to CAS R/W Delay Auto 7T 4T
    x Row Precharge Time Auto 7T 4T
    x Minimum RAS Active Time Auto 20T 12T
    x 1T/2T Command Timing Auto - - - -
    x TwTr Command Delay Auto 5T 2T
    x Trfc0 for DIMM1 Auto 90ns 90ns
    x Trfc2 for DIMM2 Auto - - - -
    x Trfc1 for DIMM3 Auto - - - -
    x Trfc3 for DIMM4 Auto - - - -
    x Write Recovery Time Auto 10T 10T
    x Precharge Time Auto 3T 3T
    x Row Cycle Time Auto 11T 11T
    x RAS to RAS Delay Auto 4T 4T
    You can get back to us later.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 01-08-2010 at 11:44 AM.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    Hi,

    The kit name is TW3X4G1333C9DHX DDR3-1333. The individual sticks have the following printed on them: CM3X2048-1333C9DHX. It also mentions that they should be run at 1.7V.

    I don't know exactly how to input the data into the template but I will give you my RAM settings here which I set manually as the auto settings completely deviate from the SPD settings. I have left the ram in DIMM 0 and DIMM 2 at the moment because while I was testing/setting up the system with 1 stick of ram I had tried switching between all of the slots which had no effect on the stability/instability.

    Processor Vcore is at 1.39 Volts (processor is specced to run at 1.4V so that seems fine)

    I have manually set these:

    DIMM volt control to 1.7V (actual reading are around 1.712)
    Memory clock: X4.00 (800 mhz)

    System is completely unstable/unuseable at 1333 mhz, and at 1066 mhz windows cannot be installed completely. At 800 mhz the system seems stable - will run prime95 to verify that.

    All other settings in the bios are left on auto except for the Ram timings below and the above mentioned:

    These are the timings

    Manual SPD Auto

    Cas# Latency 9T 9T 6T
    Ras to Cas 9T 9T 6T
    Row Precharge time 9T 9T 6T
    Minimum Ras Active Time 9T 9T 15T
    TwTr command delay 5T 5T 4T
    Trfc0 90 90 90
    Trfc2 90 90 90
    Write recovery time 10T 10T 6T
    Precharge Time 5T 5T 4T
    Row Cycle Time 33T 33T 20T
    Ras to Ras Delay 4T 4T 4T

    Thanks for any help
    Last edited by Jamovich; 01-08-2010 at 12:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    FYI:

    I have set all ram timings to auto now and the system is working. But of course this is still at 800 mhz. I also mistakenly put the ram in slot 0 and 2 which puts the ram in single channel, I have now switched the ram to slot 0 and 1 so it is running in dual channel.

    The curent RAM settings correspond to the last column in the previous message under "auto".

    Attached is a readout from CPU-Z
    Last edited by Jamovich; 01-08-2010 at 08:44 PM. Reason: Added CPU-Z readout

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    I am probably chasing ghosts like this. Can you print the templates up and go into bios and write the bios settings on the templates. Use them to post your bios settings here? These settings and numbers will make it alot easier for us to see if we can help. Have you checked your temperatures and voltages in PC Health Status?
    OK I see what appears to be a typo error. Lets double check this timing
    Cas# Latency 9T 9T 6T
    Ras to Cas 9T 9T 6T
    Row Precharge time 9T 9T 6T
    Minimum Ras Active Time 9T 9T 15T 24T
    TwTr command delay 5T 5T 4T
    Trfc0 90 90 90
    Trfc2 90 90 90
    Write recovery time 10T 10T 6T
    Precharge Time 5T 5T 4T
    Row Cycle Time 33T 33T 20T
    Ras to Ras Delay 4T 4T 4T
    Have you adjusted DDR voltage control and Set memory clock? Just to check here if you are missing something.
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto] 2700 Mhz
    CPU NorthBridge Freq. [Auto] 2000 Mhz
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    PCIE Clock (MHz) [Auto]
    HT Link Frequency [Auto]
    Set Memory Clock [Manual]
    x Memory Clock x6.66 1333Mhz
     DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    ******** System Voltage Optimized ********
    System Voltage Control [Auto]
    x DDR3 Voltage Control Manual +0.2=1.7V
    x NB Voltage Control Auto
    x SB/HT Voltage Control Auto
    x NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage Control Auto
    x CPU NB VID Control Auto
    x CPU Voltage Control Auto
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3500V
    Last edited by artdrivers; 01-09-2010 at 12:01 AM.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto] 3400 Mhz
    CPU NorthBridge Freq. [Auto] 2000 Mhz
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    PCIE Clock (MHz) [Auto]
    HT Link Frequency [Auto]
    Set Memory Clock [Manual]
    x Memory Clock x4.00 800 Mhz
     DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    ******** System Voltage Optimized ********
    System Voltage Control [Auto]
    x DDR3 Voltage Control Manual +0.2=1.7V
    x NB Voltage Control Auto
    x SB/HT Voltage Control Auto
    x NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage Control Auto
    x CPU NB VID Control Auto
    x CPU Voltage Control Auto
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3900V


    DRAM Configuration
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    Set Memory Clock [Auto]
    x Memory Clock x4.00 800Mhz
    DDR3 Timing Items [Auto] SPD Auto
    x CAS# latency Auto 9T 6T
    x RAS to CAS R/W Delay Auto 9T 6T
    x Row Precharge Time Auto 9T 6T
    x Minimum RAS Active Time Auto 24T 15T
    x 1T/2T Command Timing Auto - - - -
    x TwTr Command Delay Auto 2T 4T
    x Trfc0 for DIMM1 Auto 90ns 90ns
    x Trfc2 for DIMM2 Auto 90ns 90ns
    x Trfc1 for DIMM3 Auto - - - -
    x Trfc3 for DIMM4 Auto - - - -
    x Write Recovery Time Auto 10T 6T
    x Precharge Time Auto 5T 4T
    x Row Cycle Time Auto 33T 20T
    x RAS to RAS Delay Auto 4T 4T

    Ok I have tried to add the data according to your template. Hope this is clearer! In short these are the current timings the RAM is running at [Auto]: (JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-15-20 @ 444 MHz)

    Thanks!

    BTW: I am on 11 hours running on prime95. No errors so far - on the last hour of stress test. After it is complete I will look at what PC health says in BIOS. System is stable with the above memory settings on [Auto] @ 800 mhz. CPU-Z is reporting a CPU temp of 59 C after 11 hours of running Prime 95. That seems ok
    Last edited by Jamovich; 01-09-2010 at 12:50 AM. Reason: I have added the data according to your template

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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom?, AMD Athlon? FX, AMD Athlon? X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon?, and AMD Sempron? Processor
    That is a little hot The cpu has a rated temperature maximum of 62C I wonder if when you had the memory increased if it may have overheated while installing Windows?
    If you want you could try lowering your HT Link frequency from X10=2000 to X9=1800. Then try setting the memory timings and frequency to 1333Mhz. Let us know if that helps.
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto] 2700 Mhz
    CPU NorthBridge Freq. [Auto] 2000 Mhz
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    PCIE Clock (MHz) [Auto]
    HT Link Frequency [Manual X9]
    Set Memory Clock [Manual]
    x Memory Clock x6.66 1333Mhz
     DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    ******** System Voltage Optimized ********
    System Voltage Control [Auto]
    x DDR3 Voltage Control Manual +0.2=1.7V
    x NB Voltage Control Auto
    x SB/HT Voltage Control Auto
    x NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage Control Auto
    x CPU NB VID Control Auto
    x CPU Voltage Control Auto
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3500V
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    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
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    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
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    Monitor: CMV937A
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    Default Re: Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P and RAM troubles

    I guess you are right! I changed the stock TIM to coolermaster Icefusion and I am able to boot at 1066 mhz and ran the prime95 for 10 min. Temp hit 60 C, so I am 100% sure it is a cooling issue.

    Time to throw out this POS stock fan, then I will try 1333 with proper cooling.

    Will let you know if it is successful

    Thanks!

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