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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    just remove mb battery,leave out overnight and put back in and try
    It's now 10:00. I left my pc 10 hours without a battery. Nothing. Just nothing happened.

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Sould be between SYS_FAN2 and southbridge, just near the capacitor is that where you are looking?
    Yes, I got it. (The following link shows the relevant spot - http://i49.tinypic.com/ab0zme.jpg . Please correct me if I'm wrong).

    Still, the location is covered. No pin, nor jumper seem to exist.

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Quote Originally Posted by chermesh View Post
    Yes, I got it. (The following link shows the relevant spot - http://i49.tinypic.com/ab0zme.jpg . Please correct me if I'm wrong).

    Still, the location is covered. No pin, nor jumper seem to exist.
    Yes this is it, very weird.

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Here is a high resolution picture of your P43-ES3G mobo.
    The clear cmos jumper pins aren't exactly next to the lettering on the mobo.
    The empty jumper pins are next to a capacitor above the Sys_Fan2 header.
    There should not be a jumper on these pins for normal operation.

    Put a small jumper block (from a PATA hard drive or optical drive) on these pins and leave it there for at least 20 minutes, or over night.

    Given your current issues:
    1) Unplug the AC power cord from your psu.
    2) Press and hold the front panel on/off switch for 10 seconds.
    3) Remove your mobo battery.
    4) Place the jumper block on the CLR_CMOS pins.
    5) Pray for a long time.
    6) Remove the jumper block, re-install the battery, and re-connect the AC power cord.

    I suggest that you boot with minimal hardware, only using:
    PS2 keyboard
    1 Memory module
    Video Card and monitor

    Do you have a mobo speaker connected the speaker pins so that you can hear any error beep codes?
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    Default Hallelujah!!! Can access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Hallelujah and bless you all (and especially the clear explanation and pic submitted by profJim),

    This time, even I couldn't miss it. I followed the explanation step by step, and got it back, it meaning the POST report and access to the CMOS.

    I wonder, though, what could have spoiled my CMOS. I'll let my pc run and hope for the best. Still, since now is the time to repair whatever might have caused my problem, please suggest any action I should act/

    And, once again, thank you very much. Your persistence is admirable.


    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Here is a high resolution picture of your P43-ES3G mobo.
    The clear cmos jumper pins aren't exactly next to the lettering on the mobo.
    The empty jumper pins are next to a capacitor above the Sys_Fan2 header.
    There should not be a jumper on these pins for normal operation.

    Put a small jumper block (from a PATA hard drive or optical drive) on these pins and leave it there for at least 20 minutes, or over night.

    Given your current issues:
    1) Unplug the AC power cord from your psu.
    2) Press and hold the front panel on/off switch for 10 seconds.
    3) Remove your mobo battery.
    4) Place the jumper block on the CLR_CMOS pins.
    5) Pray for a long time.
    6) Remove the jumper block, re-install the battery, and re-connect the AC power cord.

    I suggest that you boot with minimal hardware, only using:
    PS2 keyboard
    1 Memory module
    Video Card and monitor

    Do you have a mobo speaker connected the speaker pins so that you can hear any error beep codes?

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Glad to hear that you're making progress.
    I think that step #5 is most important.

    Your problems might have been caused by:

    1. Optimized bios settings weren't loaded before any other bios changes were made.
    2. The memory voltage was too low for 2 modules.
    3. Any number of other bios settings were "off" just enough to further muck up everything.

    Find the closest generic bios template from this thread, and post your current settings so that we can further help you with optimal bios settings.
    Follow steps 1 - 4 in this post to provide additional hardware information.
    Your best bet right now is to manually set the DDR2 voltage in the bios to the maximum rated voltage for your Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 memory, probably 1.9 - 2.1 volts.

    And don't forget to read the bios profile saving and loading section in the mobo manual.

    FWIW, Google is our friend, I searched on your mobo model, selected the images option, changed the photo/image selection size to large, and then looked for the largest file size that would clearly show readable mobo text and the jumper pins.

    Good luck.

    **edit** Just noticed that you're in Israel. Chike is a very knowledgeable poster in the forum and he might be in your neighborhood.
    Last edited by profJim; 01-17-2010 at 09:40 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    **edit** Just noticed that you're in Israel. Chike is a very knowledgeable poster in the forum and he might be in your neighborhood.
    Thank you prof :-)
    I haven't realized the nick (hebrew for scythe) untill you mentioned it, however it's not that small place after all.

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    Default Setting Optimized BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Hi profJim,
    1. I tried to do as complete data collection as I managed to do. If any additions are needed, please let me know and I'll gladly complete my part.

    2. I managed to add just one file as an attachment. Therefore all other pics will be added as links. Hopefully, this won't interfere too much with your work. If it does, please let me know how to attach more than a single file.
    3. The links are as follows:









    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Glad to hear that you're making progress.
    I think that step #5 is most important.

    Your problems might have been caused by:

    1. Optimized bios settings weren't loaded before any other bios changes were made.
    2. The memory voltage was too low for 2 modules.
    3. Any number of other bios settings were "off" just enough to further muck up everything.

    Find the closest generic bios template from this thread, and post your current settings so that we can further help you with optimal bios settings.
    Follow steps 1 - 4 in this post to provide additional hardware information.
    Your best bet right now is to manually set the DDR2 voltage in the bios to the maximum rated voltage for your Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 memory, probably 1.9 - 2.1 volts.

    And don't forget to read the bios profile saving and loading section in the mobo manual.

    FWIW, Google is our friend, I searched on your mobo model, selected the images option, changed the photo/image selection size to large, and then looked for the largest file size that would clearly show readable mobo text and the jumper pins.

    Good luck.

    **edit** Just noticed that you're in Israel. Chike is a very knowledgeable poster in the forum and he might be in your neighborhood.

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Interesting, CoreTemp shows VID 1.1 but BIOS default is 1.2875, and CPU-Z shows 1.056 at idle, I don't know what to think. Save text report with CPU-Z (about tab) and see what is Max VID there.

    Aettings are optimized defaults now?
    Do you have any particular problems?
    Idle temps look OK, how are load core temps (e.g. under Prime95 blend torture)?

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    Default Re: Can't access BIOS - GA-P43-ES3G

    Hi,
    CPU-Z reports Max VID - 1.288 V. (See complete report in attachment).

    As to the question if current settings are optimal, all I can say is that I don't know. While there are no significant issues I'm aware of, I can't rely on this system if I don't know what caused the black screen issue upon booting.
    Currently, I follow profJim's suggestion to carefully check my BIOS configuration and see if the cause of the black screen can be discerned (and changed). His first guess was that I manually set the DDR2 voltage in the bios to the maximum rated voltage. I wonder if this suggestion is to be followed (and if so, how?) or is there any other culprit. (One suggestion I got was that the BIOS checks for a PCI card, while mine is a PCI-Express).
    One way or another, I'm waiting for advice which way to go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Interesting, CoreTemp shows VID 1.1 but BIOS default is 1.2875, and CPU-Z shows 1.056 at idle, I don't know what to think. Save text report with CPU-Z (about tab) and see what is Max VID there.

    Aettings are optimized defaults now?
    Do you have any particular problems?
    Idle temps look OK, how are load core temps (e.g. under Prime95 blend torture)?

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