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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Removed the memory in Channel 3 so it's now 2x2GB modules PC9200. I wasn't able to find an entry for Fine CPU Clock Ratio or CPU Reference 2. Also suggested DRAM voltages were not available in my drop down. .900 is suggested, but I could only choose between .890 or .910. Also the DRAM voltage spec on my RAM says 2.2V 2.25ECP(?) so I set that at 2.2.

    Should I get the applications you mention and test with these settings or is there anything else I should change before starting stress tests, etc?

    Thanks!


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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: ?
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................18

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................3 [Auto]
    tWR............................................6 [Auto]
    tRFC...........................................54 [Auto]
    tRTP...........................................3 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................?

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:5 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:5 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35000V

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200V

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500V

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: .760V [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.200V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; .800V
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: .900V
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.200V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: .910V
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: .910V
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: .910V

    Advanced Settings
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    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
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    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerm1970 View Post
    Removed the memory in Channel 3 so it's now 2x2GB modules PC9200. I wasn't able to find an entry for Fine CPU Clock Ratio or CPU Reference 2. Also suggested DRAM voltages were not available in my drop down. .900 is suggested, but I could only choose between .890 or .910. Also the DRAM voltage spec on my RAM says 2.2V 2.25ECP(?) so I set that at 2.2.
    EVP = Extended Voltage Protection, OCZ permit you to set voltage high as 2.25v without voiding your warrenty.

    The 2.2v is for DDR-1150. Currently this is impossible, at least 287MHz FSB is required, but you can try and set memory multiplier to 4.00A and 5-5-5-15 standard timings,for DDR-1066, this may require a bit higher MCH Core 1.15-1.24v, only increase it if needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerm1970
    Should I get the applications you mention and test with these settings or is there anything else I should change before starting stress tests, etc?
    All reference voltages and DRAM termination should be set to auto for now. These settings do not stand for tehmselves and depand on other settings, auto should set them correctly for a stock and minor OC settings.
    Last edited by Chike; 02-21-2010 at 02:06 AM. Reason: typos

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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    EVP = Extended Voltage Protection, OCZ permit you to set voltage high as 2.25v without voiding your warrenty.


    The 2.2v is for DDR-1150. Currently this is impossible, at least 287MHz FSB is required, but you can try and set memory multiplier to 4.00A and 5-5-5-15 standard timings,for DDR-1066, this may require a bit higher MCH Core 1.15-1.24v, only increase it if needed.


    All reference voltages and DRAM termination should be set to auto for now. These settings do not stand for tehmselves and depand on other settings, auto should set them correctly for a stock and minor OC settings.
    Gotcha. Thanks for explaining the EVP.
    I did leave the 2.2v intact and set the memory multiplier to 4.00A with 5-5-5-15. MCH Core left at 1.200v.
    Reset reference voltages amd DRAM termination back to [Auto]

    Should I proceed with the suggested tests with these settings?

    Thanks so much for your time, Chike!
    I definitely owe ya for all your help throughout this process!


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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Yes, withe the last settings you have posted and references/DRAM Termination auto you are good to go.
    Just one thing, is BIOS default vcore 1.35v? CoreTemp reported 1.1625v. Make a text dump with CPU-Z, and see what's there.

    Not sure about safe temps for this psocessor so do not exceed 70c core temps for now. Unlikely you'd get even near them at stock settings, but never hurt to be caucious.

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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Well, between my last post and yours the machine BSOD 2x while Idle so I reverted the DRAM voltage back to 1.8v and the DRAM Termination back to [Auto].

    Checked the BIOS and 'Normal' for VCore does show 1.35000v. I wasn't sure how to do a text dump from CPU-Z so here's the screenshot reporting a different value. What is correct?

    Once overclocked, do you feel this machine should run at least 3.6-4.0Ghz with a 1066FSB? I'm concerned I wasted $ on the 9200 RAM, but maybe I just don't quite understand how all the different settings combine to achieve good overclocking speeds.




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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: ?
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................18

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................3 [Auto]
    tWR............................................6 [Auto]
    tRFC...........................................54 [Auto]
    tRTP...........................................3 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................?

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:5 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:5 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35000V

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200V

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500V

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: .760V [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.200V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; .800V
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: .900V
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.8v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    With 266MHz FSB(1066 rated FSB) 2.66GHz is maximum possible, for 3.6GHz at least 360MHz needed, but I am not sure how high you'd be able to go.
    I scaled memory timings down so try again with their spec 5-6-6-18, MCH Core 1.22-1.24v, and try the 400A multiplier again, try 4.00C also.
    You may want to run a few memtest86+ passes before starting windows.
    As default BIOS applies 1.9v to ram, not 1.8v (if ram has no EPP/XMP or XMP is disabled).

    To create a test dump go to CPU-Z About tab and click "Save Report (.TXT)"

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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Man...I really hate to keep bothering you, I'm just getting a lot of new information and trying to keep up. :)

    I got Memtest86+ and it's running, but I have no clue what I'm looking at. Is it a continuous loop test or does it report when finished? What should I look for?

    **EDIT** Reading up on Memtest now...getting coffee ready for this evening!
    Last edited by Jerm1970; 02-21-2010 at 04:16 AM. Reason: updated stupidity


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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    It's running in a loop untill it's stopped, won't stop on errors just report them, i red, and continue.
    It's not a stress test, it will usually find errors if the memory is bad, and sometimes if the settings are wrong, just a safety measure before running windows with too unstable settings.
    Windows may still suffer craches and other stress programs as IBT and Prime95 may still fail.

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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Passed Memtest with no errors using the recommended settings of 5-6-6-18, 1.9v and 4.00C Multiplier. I also ran 7 passes with IntelBurn and passed. I've saved the results.log and will post with Prime95 and SuperPi results. Prime has been running for about 20 minutes.

    I got a little sketchy with the IntelBurn tests...Core Temp shows a High of 79°C and a Low of 33°C. But the display on the TEC only ever gets as high as 43°. I'm assuming the CoreTemp readings are more accurate? Or are they not monitoring the same thing?

    I plan to let Prime keep running, monitoring temps and hopefully can post some usable results in a while.

    If this proves to pass and run stable, what settings will I be concentrating on for tweaking the CPU and/or RAM higher? Is it now a matter of bumping a few key settings up incrementally and running tests in between each?

    Sorry for all the questions.


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    Default Re: First Post - First Build - Advice Needed - PLEASE HELP!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerm1970 View Post
    I got a little sketchy with the IntelBurn tests...Core Temp shows a High of 79°C and a Low of 33°C. But the display on the TEC only ever gets as high as 43°. I'm assuming the CoreTemp readings are more accurate? Or are they not monitoring the same thing?
    Core temps are measured by the DTSs(Digital Thermal Sensors) located in several places on the core itself. They are not very accurate, -10c to + 5c at lower temps and -5 to + 5c near TJmax. They are used to send a singal when the temps get near TJmax, and finally throttlle the CPU when TJmax is reached.
    What are the TEC temps at idle time and is there a way to control it manually? What is the CPU temperature reading in EasyTune? What thermal paste are you using?

    With those temps I can't see how you can OC the CPU, we need to see what is the reason for this first.
    BTW what is Max VID in CPU-Z text report?

    I plan to let Prime keep running, monitoring temps and hopefully can post some usable results in a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerm1970
    Sorry for all the questions.
    The more you ask the more you know, that's why I originaly came to this board. Ask away, at most you won't get an answer.

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