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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    CoreTemp shows your cpu VID is 1.15 volts, but you've set CPU Vcore = 1.225 volts when running your cpu at stock speeds. This is 12 steps higher than the default cpu spec for your cpu.
    Try setting CPU Vcore = AUTO and see if this helps.

    Some memory modules require MCH Core = 1.05 or 0.95 volts.
    Try MCH Core settings less than 1.20 volts and see if this helps.

    The requested EasyTune6 window helps with confirming which voltages have been applied.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Sorry for delayed responses.

    I slapped that bios and screen together on my way to work. XMP was set to AUTO, now DISABLED. All manual voltages were copied from BIOS defaults, except DRAM. Updated list and screen follows, with VCore @ 1.15v. Temp dropped about 10C.

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    Motherboard: GA-EP45-UD3L Rev#: 1.0 Bios Version: F9
    Cpu: E8400 Wolfdale @ 3.0ghz
    Ram: G.Skill, F2-PC8500CL5-2GBPK, 5-5-5-15, 2.0-2.1v
    Power Supply Unit: XCLIO, Goodpower 500w
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 9.0x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0]
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.00ghz - (333 x 9)
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- :  Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto](reads as 1066)
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD  ------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS  ------------------- 20 ---------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.225  ------ : 1.150v
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the  value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto  is OK if not overclocking
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.550V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the  value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto  is OK if not overclocking
    
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.805V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set  this correctly
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : 1.05v
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    
    ICH I/O ------------------ 1.550V ------- : 1.55 <--- set to the value  to the left
    ICH Core ----------------- 1.100V ------- : 1.1 <--- set to the value  to the left
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : 2.1 <--- set to the max  rated ram voltage (for most memory)
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : Enabled
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Enabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Enabled]
    VCore is only CPU tweak, there is NO overclocking. Ive noticed DRAM timings dropped from rated. Still will not POST with 4 dimms.

    Edit: Either way, Im getting PSU and mobo tested Monday, clock is ticking on RMA.
    Last edited by pagnaet; 02-21-2010 at 05:14 PM.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Sorry, wrong voltage screen.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    This is the second board that sets default vcore higher than reported VID by CoreTemp.
    Can you make a register test dump with CPU-Z and see what is reported Max VID there?
    Click About tab, then "Save Report (.TXT)"

    EDIT: BTW a little voodoo won't make thinks worse so you can try clearing CMOS overnight with both a jumper on CLR_CMOS and the battery out, overnight.
    Last edited by Chike; 02-22-2010 at 03:42 AM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Max VID reported in dump is 1.225v.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Thanks, probably a bug in CoreTemp then.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    I tried the jumper voodoo. Set it before work and on about 8hrs. Close enough to overnight. Still no-go. Barring any radical insight in the next 48hrs, this mobo is going back to Newegg, hopefully in exchange for non-Gigabyte board.

    Thanks for the help Prof and Chike, but this seems a lost cause. Still open to any suggestions, tho.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    It looks like CPU Vcore = 1.225 is probably the proper setting. 1.150 volts is within Intel's specs for your cpu (VID Voltage Range: 0.85V 1.3625V).
    I don't recall seeing an E8400 cpu with such a low standard VID value.

    You can try testing with another psu and testing with another set of memory.
    It sounds like testing with 2x2GB of memory will probably work, as your 4x1GB setup fails only when using all 4 modules.
    You might want to try DRAM Voltage = 2.12.

    It would be interesting to see if either of the follow memory setups works using all 4 modules:
    1.80 volts, 5-5-5-15 primary timings, memory speed = 800MHz.
    2.10 volts, 4-4-4-12 primary timings, memory speed = 800MHz.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    With EIST - Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology enabled, naturally the CPU Vcore will be lower at idle. I would recommend disabling EIST in the BIOS until the system is stable.

    I would favor using MCH Core 1.20v to 1.24v.

    Using a power supply with an P4 and not a 8 pin EPS12V power connector could be a problem.

    PC2 8500 will run at relaxed timings until you overclock the CPU a bit.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Quote Originally Posted by Reggie View Post
    Using a power supply with an P4 and not a 8 pin EPS12V power connector could be a problem.
    The MB only has a 4 pin connector...

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