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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Im currently running 4x1GB @ 800mhz, 2.1v with timing 4-4-4-12. Do the timings make up for lost bandwidth?

    Its clear a RAM upgrade is in my future, 2x2GB seems to be the battle-tested norm, and its an easier jump to 8GB from there.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Are you stable with those settings, have you ran any other test other than memtest86+?

    The timings do make up a little for the lower frequency, benchmarks will show a small difference, nothing noticeable in normal use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Are you stable with those settings, have you ran any other test other than memtest86+?
    It passes Memtest86, and I ran Prime95 over 3hrs. From your other post, I tried MaxxMem. There are some differences.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Quote Originally Posted by pagnaet View Post
    It passes Memtest86, and I ran Prime95 over 3hrs. From your other post, I tried MaxxMem. There are some differences.
    Likely, your tRD(Performance Level in MemSet, Static tRead Valu in BIOS) is set auto, try to set the lowest possible Static tRead Value for both channels, start with 6, for the same FSB/DDR-rate and timings I am stable with 5, you probably should be too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Likely, your tRD(Performance Level in MemSet, Static tRead Valu in BIOS) is set auto, try to set the lowest possible Static tRead Value for both channels, start with 6, for the same FSB/DDR-rate and timings I am stable with 5, you probably should be too.
    Yep, stable 3 passes Memtest86+. Still running tests. I tried setting drive strength 1066, it didnt like that. Its quite a process to fix it when it hiccups.
    E8400 @ 3.0ghz(stock HSF) ||Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev. 1.6 (FD) || 2x2GB G.Skill DDR2 1066(F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK) || PNY G-Force 9800GT 1024MB GDDR3 || WD 140g HDD || WD 640g HDD || Lite-on DVD/CD-R/W || xClio Goodpower 500w || Antec Three-Hundred case(2x 120mm, 1x140mm fans)

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Quote Originally Posted by pagnaet View Post
    I tried setting drive strength 1066, it didnt like that. Its quite a process to fix it when it hiccups.
    How do you mean, the boot loop?
    When the computer boot looping because bad settings let it try 5-7 times, then turn the PSU off, wait about 20 seconds, turn the PSU back on and try again, this need to be repeated sometimes, enter BIOS and correct the settings.

    Driving strength for my DDR-800 benchmark was either 800 or auto.
    Have you tried tRD 5?
    One major difference between our memory is tRFC, mines default to 42 @ DDR-800, while yours default to 52. You may try to lower it but this will require extended stress test.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Post your current updated bios settings and we'll see if anything doesn't look right.
    Make sure that the bios settings show AUTO or manually set values.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    With 4-4-4-12, tRD 5 or 6, even auto, voltage 2.12, it would pass memtest86+ 1 time. Then halfway through next pass, it would just quit.

    Running from a boot ISO, the system was silent. When it crashed, video card fan sped up, but there was dead signal to monitor; just blackness, not usual 'no signal' screen from monitor. Restart sometimes fixed this, other times, or if I reset bios, I have to physically remove RAM modules, otherwise it wont POST.

    Current settings:
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    Motherboard: GA-EP45-UD3L Rev#: 1.0 Bios Version: F9
    Cpu: E8400 Wolfdale @ 3.0ghz
    Ram: G.Skill, F2-PC8500CL5-2GBPK, 5-5-5-15, 2.0-2.1v
    Power Supply Unit: XCLIO, Goodpower 500w
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 9.0x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0]
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 3.00ghz - (333 x 9)
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- :  Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [2.40B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ----- 800mhz --- : [Auto] 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [5]
    tRCD  ------------------- 7 ---------- : [5]
    tRP --------------------- 7 ---------- : [5]
    tRAS  ------------------- 20 --------- : [15]
    
    Advanced Timing Control (No advanced timings adjusted)
    tRRD  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- 8 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- 68 --------- : [Auto]
    tRTP  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 ---------- : [Auto]
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value ------------ 7 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --------- 1 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -------- 6 ------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -------- 6 ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -------- 5 ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -------- 8 ------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value ------------ 7 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --------- 0 ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -------- 6 ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -------- 6 ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -------- 5 ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -------- 8 ------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.225  ------ : [Auto]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto]
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.550V* ----- : [Auto]
    
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.805V* ----- : [Auto]
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    
    ICH I/O ------------------ 1.550V ------- : [Auto]
    ICH Core ----------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : 2.12
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Disabled]
    This config ran memtest for 8hrs with no errors. The performance isnt as great as the faster timings, but the numbers are negligible over stability. I just need new memory.
    E8400 @ 3.0ghz(stock HSF) ||Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P Rev. 1.6 (FD) || 2x2GB G.Skill DDR2 1066(F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK) || PNY G-Force 9800GT 1024MB GDDR3 || WD 140g HDD || WD 640g HDD || Lite-on DVD/CD-R/W || xClio Goodpower 500w || Antec Three-Hundred case(2x 120mm, 1x140mm fans)

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Have you tried more MCH Core with CAS 4?
    Have you checked if memory gets too hot? Normaly you should be able to touch it comfortably.

    Could be the memory, but before you run and throw money just to find out that the memory is not the problem, try to loan a decent 2x2GB kit and see that it works for you.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3L "boot loop" with 4-dimms

    Right now, we don't know if the problem is with your 4x1GB memory or your mobo.
    Your 4x1GB memory setup should be able to run at its full rated speed.

    I agree that your best bet is to borrow a 2x2GB set of decent 1066 memory to test with.
    Forum members have had excellent results with G.Skill 2x2GB 1066 memory.

    Another option that will improve system and memory performance is to use:
    7.5 x 400 FSB (3.00GHz) or 8 x 400 FSB (3.20GHz for a mild overclock)
    2.00B memory multiplier for 800MHz memory speeds
    With this setup, you will need to manually set several voltages and perform stability/stress testing.

    960MHz memory speeds (with somewhat looser memory timings) might be do-able using the 2.40B memory multiplier
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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