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    Default Mystery Freeze Up

    I have a GA-EP45-UD3P (rev 1.1) with an E8400 and 4Gbs of G.Skill PC2-8000 memory.
    There are two main symptoms.
    The first is that my rig will pass every stability test I throw at it. Prime95 (8+ hours), Intel Burn test (30 loops at max stress), OCCT, Furmark, Futuremark 3D Mark (05, 06, and Vantage), Memtest and Windows memory test (mdsched.exe). But, once I start playing 3D Games, and it happens in all (Timeshift, Fallout 3, Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2, and FEAR 2 most recently), it crashes out. Not just to the desktop, blue screen of death (sometimes) or just freezes until I hold the power button in and turn the computer off.
    It also has a lot of errrors that seem to be hard drive related. I have replaced my back up hard drive twice in the last year, as it has "failed tests". However, my latest one just went in, and the errors are starting already. Often, it will go into Check Disc on startup. ChkDsk reports no errors, and it starts fine. Just today, it crashed out while playing Timeshift. This time it actually blue screened. When it tried to restart, it froze after the initial start up load progress bar (something it will do often). It went into a Chk Disc, and, this time told me that it could not repair the drive as there was not enough space. (I have 110GBs on the partition with my OS, with 47 GBs free) Once I performed a hard shut down and rebooted, it hung twice after the initial load progress bar. Once I cleared the CMOS and reloaded my BIOS settings, it started fine.
    I have tried many things to see what the problem is, including other memory, reducing my overclock (CPU and Graphics Card), booting without peripherals hooked up, etc. I could never find anything that "fixed" the problem for more than a short while. Latest effort was to set the BIOS to default. Still froze.
    Thoughts?


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    Default Re: Mystery Freeze Up

    if its passing memory tests but crashing in games its probably gpu,have you tried with another card???
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    Ocz reaper DDR3 PC3-14400 (1800MHz) 3x2gb (OCZ3RPR1800LV6GK) 8-8-8-24-1t-@1.64v-1.3qpi
    Thermolab Baram cpu cooler
    Dual Boot
    1xsamsung 750gb hard drive-win7 ultimate 64
    1xsamsung 750gb hard drive-windows xp pro 32
    Ati x1950 pro gpu
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    Nzxt lexa case
    http://i40.tinypic.com/2z3w377.jpg <=3.8ghz overclock template

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    No I have not, as I do not have another vid card. I have had thoughts that this could be the issue as well. It behaves in a manner that has made me think heat, but all reported temps (Everest GPU, Memory and VRM) temps are fine. As well, it passes all 3D tests. Futuremark Vantage, 3D 06, 05. Furmark.
    i7 3770K, 47X100= 4.7GHz at 1.33V, ASROCK Z77 Extreme4, 2 X 4GB Patriot Viper Black Maba DDR3 1600, GTX 590, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB SSDs in RAID 0, Barracuda SATA 7200.10 500GB, Barracuda SATA 7200.11 1000GB Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W, Z-5500s, LG Blu Ray Player/DVD Burner, Koolance CTR-CD12 Fan/Pump Controller, Windows 7 X64 Professional, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector
    Cooling: Thermochill PA120.2 GT AP15 in push, DDC 3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt Extreme, XSPC Razor, Coolgate CG-240 Swiftech Helix in push/pull, MCP35X.

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    Default Re: Mystery Freeze Up

    Try raising your ICH voltages a notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadeater View Post
    Try raising your ICH voltages a notch.
    It is already at 1.4. Wouldn't that be too high?
    i7 3770K, 47X100= 4.7GHz at 1.33V, ASROCK Z77 Extreme4, 2 X 4GB Patriot Viper Black Maba DDR3 1600, GTX 590, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB SSDs in RAID 0, Barracuda SATA 7200.10 500GB, Barracuda SATA 7200.11 1000GB Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W, Z-5500s, LG Blu Ray Player/DVD Burner, Koolance CTR-CD12 Fan/Pump Controller, Windows 7 X64 Professional, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector
    Cooling: Thermochill PA120.2 GT AP15 in push, DDC 3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt Extreme, XSPC Razor, Coolgate CG-240 Swiftech Helix in push/pull, MCP35X.

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    Default Re: Mystery Freeze Up

    Post a screen-shot using EasyTune6/TUNER tab/ADVANCE tab/VOLTAGE tab so that we can see what voltage settings are being applied.
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    Can't give a screenie with Easy Tune. It won't reinstall, and I cannot make it disappear from Remove Programs. I can list my settings.
    OK, so here are settings.

    First, basically default
    Code:
    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [A]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [9X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.00GHz( 333x9)
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Disabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [333]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [Auto]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Auto]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Auto]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 4]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 4]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [12]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................3...: [Auto] 
    x tWTR............................3...: [Auto] 
    x tWR.............................6...: [Auto] 
    x tRFC...........................52...: [Auto]
    x tRTP............................3...: [Auto] 
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [Auto]
    
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............10...: [Auto]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............10...: [Auto]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.25 (1.20 in Windpws under load)]
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.200V]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.5V]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [.76]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.1V]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [.76]
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [Auto]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [Auto (1.9)]
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Next, settings I used for 4.5GHz.

    Code:
    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [A]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [9X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 4.50GHz( 500x9)
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Disabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [500]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 1000
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 5]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 5]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................3...: [3] 
    x tWTR............................3...: [3 (11 in Memset)] 
    x tWR.............................6...: [6 (14 in Memset)] 
    x tRFC...........................52...: [48]
    x tRTP............................3...: [1 (4 in Memset)] 
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [Auto]
    
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............10...: [9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066mhz]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............10...: [9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066mhz]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.4 (1.38 in Windows)]
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.300V]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.65V]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [.823]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.36V]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [.72]
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [1.06]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.06]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.1]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.12v (2.1 in Windows]
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [1.06]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [1.06]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [1.06]
    I am going to up the voltage of the memory a tad. Another Vid Card is on the way. If it turns out not to be the vid card, I shall have to get a SLI capable Motherboard, as I shall not let two GTX280s go to waste!
    i7 3770K, 47X100= 4.7GHz at 1.33V, ASROCK Z77 Extreme4, 2 X 4GB Patriot Viper Black Maba DDR3 1600, GTX 590, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB SSDs in RAID 0, Barracuda SATA 7200.10 500GB, Barracuda SATA 7200.11 1000GB Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W, Z-5500s, LG Blu Ray Player/DVD Burner, Koolance CTR-CD12 Fan/Pump Controller, Windows 7 X64 Professional, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector
    Cooling: Thermochill PA120.2 GT AP15 in push, DDC 3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt Extreme, XSPC Razor, Coolgate CG-240 Swiftech Helix in push/pull, MCP35X.

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    Default Re: Mystery Freeze Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Proton View Post
    It is already at 1.4. Wouldn't that be too high?
    ICH I/O and ICH Core, not MCH.

    I'm having a similar problem right now. Seemingly random lockups. I already swapped boards, PSUs, RAM. I can play games, but then the PC will randomly lock up when I do something as simple as open the Start menu or click stop on a video in Firefox. Other times it will lock up in games too. Always passes Prime95, and everything seems to work until it locks up, without a BSOD. Stock speeds or overclocked didn't make a difference.

    Anyway, when I raised the ICH voltages it seemed to reduce the amount of random lockups.

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    Think I solved it. Just for laughs, I took the sides off and aimed a fan at it. No more lock ups. Don't know what is getting hot, all my reported temps, both software and probes, are fine.
    i7 3770K, 47X100= 4.7GHz at 1.33V, ASROCK Z77 Extreme4, 2 X 4GB Patriot Viper Black Maba DDR3 1600, GTX 590, 2 X Corsair Force 3 120GB SSDs in RAID 0, Barracuda SATA 7200.10 500GB, Barracuda SATA 7200.11 1000GB Back Ups, OCZ ZX 1250W, Z-5500s, LG Blu Ray Player/DVD Burner, Koolance CTR-CD12 Fan/Pump Controller, Windows 7 X64 Professional, HAF X. Vision Quest 24" WS LCD, Optoma H66 Projector
    Cooling: Thermochill PA120.2 GT AP15 in push, DDC 3.25/XSPC Res top, Apogee Xt Extreme, XSPC Razor, Coolgate CG-240 Swiftech Helix in push/pull, MCP35X.

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    Default Re: Mystery Freeze Up

    Could be NB with that FSB and voltage. How is it being cooled?

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