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    Unhappy GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    Hi Everybody.

    I had some greats difficulties with my PC since few month. I tried differents moves with no success.
    I really need the help of some peoples who know how a computer works.

    Config :

    GA-EP45C-DS3R
    Intel Core Duo 2 3Ghz E8400
    Kingston 2°2Gb DDR3 10600 CL9
    Radeon HD4870 1Gb DDR5
    2 HD ( 500 Go + 300 Go )
    Power Silent Giant 550 W
    Dual boot : Vista 32bits / Win 7 32bits

    When I start an game, as soon as i get in a "mission" my computer reboot.

    I have install F5 bios.
    I have switch to DDR2 memory and i have found system more stable. Then I Change for a new DDR3
    and had to manually put 1.5 because it was in 1.7V, but no success.
    I have uninstall energy saver, Audio drivers, change usb port ... nothing.
    I am installing latest drivers for composants and energy saver new versions.


    In bios PC Health status,
    For 12V it's show 11.8 V
    And Vcore is 1.22 instead of 13V.
    Is this signify that my power supply is not working fine or is not enougth for my composants ?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    I've found that PC Health usually reports Cpu Vcore 0.02 volts lower than the manual setting in the MIT section.
    Did you load Optimized bios settings before you made any bios changes.
    Can you borrow another power supply to test with?

    If you provide the information in this post, steps 1 - 4, we can better help you. We need detailed hardware information and your bios settings using the link in the post. The screen-shot (step 4) provides additional information.

    I would avoid installing the energy saving software, at least until your system has passed extended stability testing.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    Sorry I didn't realize that you need all thoses informations.
    Here is all you need ;)

    1.
    Intel Core 2 Duo 3 Ghz FSB 1333 Mhz L2 Cache 6 Mn E8400
    GA-EP45-DS3R rev 1.0
    Bios version F6a
    Radeon HD 4870 1Gb DDR5
    Kingston DDR3 2x2Go 1333 Mhz CL9 KVR1333D3N9/2G
    Power : Power LC6550GP2 V.2.2 Silent Giant Series 550W
    CPU Fan : Freezer 7 Pro

    2
    Ram specifications Here

    3 - Bios was set to optimized then i change DDR3 voltage to 1.6

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00Ghz 333x9


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disable)
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1333
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time…………………… 9 auto
    tRCD ......................................... 9 Auto
    tRP'........................................... 9 Auto
    tRAS.......................................... 24 Auto


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 4
    tWTR.......................................... 5
    tWR............................................ 10
    tRFC........................................... 74
    tRTP……………………………………. 5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value…………………….: 7 auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment……………….:Aut 0
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 0
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 9
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 10
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value…………………….: 7 auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment……………….:Aut 0
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto 0
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto 0
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 9
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 10
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto 1.25
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: auto

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: auto
    CPU Referen.…………….0.76V*…….: auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.………0.750V………..: auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave


    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……….1.58V...………:
    DRAM Termination .…0.750V…………: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.750V…………: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.750V…………: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect …………..[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    Intel Core 2 Duo 3 Ghz E8400 - GA-EP45-DS3R rev 1.0 - Bios version F6a - Radeon HD 4870 1Gb DDR5 - Kingston DDR3 2x2Go 1333Mhz KVR1333D3N9/2G - Psu: LC Power LC6550GP2 V.2.2 Silent Giant Series 550W - CPU Fan : Freezer 7 Pro

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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    And the rest, sorry for the second message

    Attachment 2297

    Thx :)

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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    MCH Core = 1.24 - 1.28 is probably needed with 4GB od DDR3 memory.
    MCH Core that is too low or too high will cause boot loops or instability.

    Sometimes systems running at stock speeds are not fully stable.
    Many stock systems are stable when some of the bios voltage settings are manually set to the "normal" value displayed in your bios to the left of the colon (":"). The recommended changes from AUTO to a manual value are in the beginning of this post.

    Please use this simplified bios template to post your settings.
    Please follow the following format to show which values are set to AUTO and which bios values you have manually set:
    Code:
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.?????  ---- : [Auto] 
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.20]
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [1.50] 
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.26] 
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.800V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [Auto]
    After you have made the suggested bios changes, run the following tests:
    1) Memtest86+ (v4.0) for 3 - 6 full passes.
    2) Intel BurnTest for 10 loops using at least 1024 or 2048MB of memory.
    3) Prime95 Blend test for at least 8 - 12 hours, longer is better.

    If any of the tests generate errors, detail the error message when you post your new bios settings.
    Don't run additional tests if one of the earlier tests fails.
    Repeat the screen-shot when you post your results.
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    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    Ok.
    I have tried bios settings you told me. But i still got the same issue.
    And I don't have any power supply for checking.
    I am going to run all the tests you ask me to do and i will give you my bios more clearly tomorrow.

    Thx for you help Buddy. Good night and see ya.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    I've found something, please dont be upset cause it's ridiculous.
    It's the first computer I assembled myself.
    My motherboard requires a 8 pin EPS +12 volt power cable but I have plug in it a 4 pin ATX +12 volt power cable.

    On the link you provide on your signature ProfJim, they say :


    You can plug a 4 pin 12 volt power cable into an 8 pin EPS motherboard connector but there's no guarantee that it will work. If the motherboard expects only one 12 volt rail then a 4 pin 12 volt cable4 pin 12 volt cable, you are still only providing half of the current carrying capacity which would be provided by an 8 pin EPS cable. That can overheat both the motherboard connector and 4 pin cable. Scorched or melted connectors can be a result. may work. If the motherboard expects two 12 volt rails (many dual CPU motherboards require one 12 volt rail per CPU) then it won't work. Even if the motherboard works with a A motherboard which has the 8 pin EPS connector expects a lot of current and you are taking a serious risk by plugging in a 4 pin cable. The 4 pin cable only fits at one end of the 8 pin EPS motherboard connector so you can't plug it in improperly. That is, it only fits into one end of the motherboard connector unless you force it. If the cable doesn't go into the socket easily then you're probably trying to plug it into the wrong end. But then again, it's not a good idea to try to run with a 4 pin cable in an 8 pin motherboard anyway.

    This is it ? Isn't it ? :)
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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    Possibly.
    It's recommended that you use an EPS_12V 8-pin connector whenever possible. It might be that your system might require this setup
    A datasheet for your psu seems to say it has a "1 x 4+4 EPS 12volt connector". The usual setup is with one (or two) 2x2 pin connectors, and/or one 2x4 pin connectors.
    I'm not quite sure what setup your psu has.

    Ya, sometimes it's the little details that trip us up.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    If your psu does not have connectors to provide a 2x4 pin EPS 12volt motherboard connector, there are several types of adapters that might work with your psu.
    Can you borrow another psu to test with?
    Below is one of several types of adapters.
    Last edited by profJim; 03-14-2010 at 07:26 AM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: GA-EP45C-DS3R freeze at game's start

    Unfortunatly, my psu doesn't have a 2 x 4 pin 12V connector.
    And I havn't another psu to try.
    I al going to run thoses test today anyway, to see if something interesting happen.

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