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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    It depends if the 2.50A multiplier will work at 425MHz FSB, 2.40B may be good alternative. DDR850 should be possible with CAS 4 but will need higher voltage.

    In any case base your settings on benchmarks not the numbers in BIOS alone. Memory benchmarks or benchmarks that are effected by memory performance like Super PI.

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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    I did this just to see if I could get my machine to crash- 'high' priority setting.


    Did not crash!

    This was on 'normal' setting.



    This was on 'high'.



    While running the 8M at high priority, Hyper Pi was disappearing, moving around and different parts of the GUI would flash?
    This did not happen at 'normal priority'.


    EDIT: New System Configuration

    E8400-CO/6 VID1.25[batch#?]
    GA-EP45-UD3R v1.1[BIOS.f12]
    2*2GB 1066MHz HyperX KHX8500D2K2/4G Memory Data Sheet.pdf
    Corsair TX650W, EVGA 896MB GTX275, x2 WD3200AAKS[no raid]
    Last edited by Marker; 03-18-2010 at 05:18 AM.

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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    BTW:

    Code:
    Robot Graphics Booster ----------------- : [fast]
    CPU Clock Ratio ------------------------ : [9]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------- : [NA] 
    CPU Frequency ---------------------------: 3825
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ----------------: [425]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------ : [100]
    
    C.I.A.2 -------------------------------- : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ------------------------ : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive ---------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance -------------------- : [standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled] 
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ----------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier --------------- : [2.00D] 1:1 ratio
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ----------------- : [850]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ----------------- : [M] 
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ------------ : [5]
    tRCD  ------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRP --------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRAS  ------------------- 18 ----------- : [15] Jedec@400 value of 18
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWTR  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWR --------------------- 6  ----------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- 52 ----------- : [51] <<< Jedec@400MHz value 51  
    tRTP  ------------------- 3 ------------ : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    Command Rate (CMD) --------------------- : [Auto]
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ----------------------- : 800
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal --------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ------------------ : [E]
    CPU Vcore ------------- "VID[1.25]" ---- : [1.34375]
    CPUID Vcore ---------------------------- : [1.312]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ------ : [1.28] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ------ : [1.5]
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ------ : [.800] .850 actual
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.28]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [.760] .810 Actual
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [.950]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.5] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.1] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [1.9] .1v above Jedec#3 @ 400MHz
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    These settings passed P95:Blend for 4 hours and 52 minutes.


    Quote Originally Posted by
    Chike
    It may be possible to use 4-4-4-12 timings with the memory spec voltage to 1066...
    Do you mean 450MHz using CL4-4-4-12-PL8 @ 2.1VDRAM?
    Last edited by Marker; 03-18-2010 at 05:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    Do you mean 450MHz using CL4-4-4-12-PL8 @ 2.1VDRAM?
    Yes, 4/5*533=426.4, 2.1-2.2v.

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    I was having this issue of games would drop to desktop once a map is loaded up. It would not crash the game and stop it, just drop to desktop and the game would still be running. Just have to click the taskbar icon to get back into the game. Thinking of what could be causing it, I checked over my XP OC notes and found that I had this issue with XP as well when MCH is set at 1.26. I bumped up the MCH voltage and tested 'entering games' and at MCH1.28, games were no longer dropping to desktop.

    Other than raising the MCH, was there something else I should have done that you can think of?

    As of right now, these settings have run in P95:Blend at 7hrs and 32 minutes, error free. I will run this test to the 12hr mark.
    Code:
    Robot Graphics Booster ----------------- : [fast]
    CPU Clock Ratio ------------------------ : [9]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------- : [NA] 
    CPU Frequency ---------------------------: 3825
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ----------------: [425]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------ : [101]
    
    C.I.A.2 -------------------------------- : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ------------------------ : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive ---------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance -------------------- : [standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled] 
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ----------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier --------------- : [2.00D] 1:1 ratio
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ----------------- : [850]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ----------------- : [M] 
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ------------ : [5]
    tRCD  ------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRP --------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRAS  ------------------- 18 ----------- : [15] Jedec@400 value of 18
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWTR  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWR --------------------- 6  ----------- : [6] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tRFC  ------------------- 52 ----------- : [51] <<< Jedec@400MHz value 51  
    tRTP  ------------------- 3 ------------ : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    Command Rate (CMD) --------------------- : [Auto]
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ----------------------- : 800
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal --------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ------------------ : [E]
    CPU Vcore ------------- "VID[1.25]" ---- : [1.34375]
    CPUID Vcore ---------------------------- : [1.312]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ------ : [1.28] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ------ : [1.5]
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ------ : [.800] .850 actual
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.28]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [.760] .810 Actual
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [.950]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.5] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.1] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [1.9] .1v above Jedec#3 @ 400MHz
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Once I've found these settings stable in P95, which I will, I'll run some 'Hyper Pi' test and start tweaking the MCHRef to see if I can get the Hyper Pi timings to tighten up.
    Last edited by Marker; 03-19-2010 at 01:15 AM.

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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    Yes tweaking MCH Reference it may enable you to use lower MCH Core.

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    Passed 11 hours of P95:Blend at 2.8GBs of memory used at test.
    Code:
    Robot Graphics Booster ----------------- : [fast]
    CPU Clock Ratio ------------------------ : [9]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------- : [NA] 
    CPU Frequency ---------------------------: 3825
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ----------------: [425]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------ : [101]
    
    C.I.A.2 -------------------------------- : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ------------------------ : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive ---------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance -------------------- : [standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled] 
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ----------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier --------------- : [2.00D] 1:1 ratio
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ----------------- : [850]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ----------------- : [M] 
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ------------ : [5]
    tRCD  ------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRP --------------------- 5  ----------- : [5]
    tRAS  ------------------- 18 ----------- : [15] Changed from 15
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWTR  ------------------- 3  ----------- : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tWR --------------------- 6  ----------- : [6] <<< Jedec@400 value
    tRFC  ------------------- 52 ----------- : [51] <<< Jedec@400MHz value 51  
    tRTP  ------------------- 3 ------------ : [3] <<< Jedec@400 value
    Command Rate (CMD) --------------------- : [Auto]
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ----------------------- : 800
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [9]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal --------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ------------------ : [E]
    CPU Vcore ------------- "VID[1.25]" ---- : [1.34375]
    CPUID Vcore ---------------------------- : [1.312]
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ------ : [1.28] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ------ : [1.5]
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ------ : [.800] .850 actual
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.28]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [.760] .810 Actual
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [.950]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.5] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.1] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [1.9] .1v above Jedec#3 @ 400MHz
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [.950]
    The timings in memset don't read the same as the BIOS settings?





    Thought I ran for 12 hours. Never have my PC on that long anyways, unless for testing.

    Going to test the MCH Ref tweaking tomorrow. I'll post more findings later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    The timings in memset don't read the same as the BIOS settings?
    Some of them don't http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/memo...vs-bios-27283/

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    Default Re: Trying to get stable with a new OS[W7x64Pro]

    I want to get a BIOS set for 3825MHz(2.50A)1066MHz on my KHX8500D2K2/4G. However, the 4GBs of PC8500 does not have a 533MHz JEDEC table programed into the eprom for Advanced Timings so I'm not sure where to set my 'Advanced timings'. I don't want to set them at JEDEC 400MHz, that might be to tight. To loose and I'll be testing for days bring down the timings to tighten up the latencies. Don't want them on automatic because they 'might' change during some kind of process, or so I assume! Unless it's a 'dynamic value'(like burst length[?]), which I'll then leave on auto.

    I've looked for this answer on the net for a little over a day now. I'm thinking of just putting in my 2*1GB KHX8500D2K2/2GNR and pulling the 533MHz JEDEC Table of that and starting slightly loose!

    I just don't understand why the 1GB KHX8500D2K2/2GNR module gets the 533MHz table, while the 2GB module of the same serial does not get the 533MHz JEDEC Table?

    EDIT:I'm going to switch out the modules real quick, after BIOS config for proper booting, and get that table from the KHX8500D2K2/2GNR... *******[Back at some time and repost diagnostics]...
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