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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    yeah go check it out
    thats good
    it could be a mount issue i have been telling you about .....

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    I'll have to find out exactly what they did - if they touched the CPU, etc

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Hmm, did they also test other memory or was this with your memory only?

    Auto CMD Rate is likely 2, so that isn't really any help. Sure it might work, but it probably would kill performance? Not sure, never ran 2T on DDR3

    You may also want to ask to be sure if the actually tested 1600Mhz too, using auto CMD Rate makes me wonder if they also used Auto memory multi too.

    How much did they charge you for this?

    Let us know what all you find out.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Hmm, did they also test other memory or was this with your memory only?

    Auto CMD Rate is likely 2, so that isn't really any help. Sure it might work, but it probably would kill performance? Not sure, never ran 2T on DDR3

    You may also want to ask to be sure if the actually tested 1600Mhz too, using auto CMD Rate makes me wonder if they also used Auto memory multi too.

    How much did they charge you for this?

    Let us know what all you find out.
    I tried to get them to test it with a different memory kit in there but they said it wouldn't help. I got it back and they only tested it at stock speeds with the AUTO command rate being the only thing different to my settings that I notice. Perhaps re-setting the BIOS wasn't a good idea, sigh. Either way, I'll have to test it tomorrow morning after leaving it overnight to see how it reacts to a very cold boot which is the only time I can guarantee it'll fail if it's still b0rked.

    The hard drive on the other hand they said they ran diagnostics of it in another PC and that it had bad sectors and was most likely faulty. It still hangs on the Windows logo with those weird HDD sounds then silence so I'm not really sure what to make of this one.

    Edit: Scratch that - I didn't even have to wait overnight. I upped it to 1600mhz, left it for 5 mins, came back and it's only 4GB.
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Wouldn't help? What are they are lost! This would be the first thing I would test if you brought it to me, especially since you asked for that and mentioned you thought it might be part of the problem. Then of course I would also test with yours, but not until I was done testing with different memory.

    So they did test it at 1600Mhz then, or did you mean stock speeds of Auto/1066? Auto command rate would be 2T I believe, not sure exactly how much that will hurt your performance in real life use, but I know it is not as good as 1T. I have never used 2T on DDR3, so not really sure how much of a difference there is.

    The drive they are probably right about, especially if it is making weird noises on you. Time to RMA that.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Give me a min, I'll write up the settings it's on at the moment and we can run through tweaking them.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Lets start from this.

    Code:
    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ............................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled .......................... [All]
    CPU Multi Threading ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) .................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support ..................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function .......................... [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology .................. [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed ............................ [Auto]
    Uncore Frequency .......................... [Auto] 
    Isonchronous Frequency .................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disable]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133MHz
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [Auto] 
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]   <---- Can't see this option
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [12.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [Expert]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
    tRCD ....................................... 9
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 24
    
    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ [Auto]
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Standard]  (Standard, level1, level 2 are only options)
    CPU Vcore ............................. [Auto]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ................ [Auto]
    CPU PLL 1.800v ........................ [Auto]
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... [Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ........................ [Auto]
    IOH Core 1.100v ....................... [Auto]
    ICH I/O 1.500v ........................ [Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v ......................... [Auto]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .................. [Auto] <-- Edit: forgot to change this
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Hold up though.. Didn't you say it is working properly now and you want to test a few days/cold boots to be sure it stays that way?

    If so go ahead and either keep exact settings posted here, or save a profile with those, that way once you start tweaking again and if things go bad once more you can go back and try their settings.

    Surely they did not use the above blank/auto settings did they?

    I can give you settings to try with, just wanted to be sure of the above stuff first.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Sorry, I edited my post a few above. :P I saved the profile they had (which was at 1066mhz) and then changed the multiplier to 1600MHz, rebooted and the problem came back. Seems that it really doesn't like its rated speeds.

    Aside from that, they left everything else auto. -_-

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R: Missing Memory only at 1600MHz

    Terrible! You paid for them to test at 1066Mhz, you could have done that yourself and saw things were fine as per your title.

    I'd demand my money back, or for them to properly test at the ram's spec speeds or with different memory as you asked them to do the first time. Since they really charged you for nothing

    Can you borrow any other DDR3, or maybe buy some different? This is probably the problem, too bad they did not test that for you.

    Anyway, Let try this again with spec speeds and see, but it really sounds like your memory is partially faulty or is not fully compatible with this board.

    Code:
    EuP .........................  Disabled
    
    Quick Boot ................ Disabled
    
    
    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ............................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled .......................... [All]
    CPU Multi Threading ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) .................... [Enabled]  << Disable for now, we don't need jumping freq.'s
    C3/C6/C7 State Support ..................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function .......................... [Enabled] << Disable for now, we don't need jumping freq.'s
    Virtualization  .................. [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual  Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed ............................ [Auto]  << Set x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... [Auto]   << Set 24-26 manually
    Isonchronous Frequency .................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disable]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133MHz
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [Auto] 
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]   <---- Can't see this option
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo]  << Set Extreme, but also try turbo later if you think EX is an issue
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ........... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........... [12.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............. [Expert]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
    tRCD ....................................... 9
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 24
    
    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine.  For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP .......................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................    (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................  << Set 88 for now
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ [Auto]  << Set 1T (I do see specifications are 2T, so maybe this memory really sucks and can only run 2T?)  Only one person at newegg mentions using 1T at 1600Mhz
    Could be why auto worked for them, but I really think 1066Mhz is why they had it working fine, silly guys, reminds me of Geek Squad.
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Standard]  (Standard, level1, level 2 are only options)
    CPU Vcore ............................. [Auto]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ................ [Auto]  << Set 1.25-1.4
    CPU PLL 1.800v ........................ [Auto]
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... [Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ........................ [Auto]  << Try 1.18-1.24 (Also test auto/stock later)
    IOH Core 1.100v ....................... [Auto]  << Set 1.14-1.16 (Also test auto/stock later)
    ICH I/O 1.500v ........................ [Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v ......................... [Auto]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .................. [Auto] << Set 1.6-1.66 (I'd set 1.66 for now)
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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