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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    All I had time to try this morning before heading to classes were different single memory configurations on the board.

    Computer continues the restart cycle with a single stick of memory in all three white slots on the board.

    Which of my components is most likely to be the issue? A factory-faulty MOBO, or an insufficient / incompatible PSU? I might try to swing by a computer store on my way home today and grab another PSU with more wattage and of a different brand. I would really love to keep this board due to all of the great features it has.

    I'll also be checking for bent socket pins tonight. I'll keep you updated!

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    I suspect the CPU Socket has bent pins.

    PSU could still be to blame, but until you get one you can't be sure.

    I'd check the CPU Socket first, then if that is all fine then I would think about borrowing or buying a different PSU to test with. I wouldn't buy one first though, borrow maybe, but not buy in case it is bent socket pins.

    Be careful when you check the socket!!

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    So I bought a new 650w Antec PSU on my way home today. Once I got back, I fired it into the case, connected everything, and attempted to boot. No luck.

    Next step was to check the CPU socket pins. After I removed the heatsink and cpu, I took about 15 careful minutes to inspect the pins. Nothing was bent or out of place as far as I could see (I'm young, so I've still got good eyes :P). However, I don't necessarily know EXACTLY what to look for. So, as you suggested, I took some pictures.







    Also, I'm wondering: Each time you remove the heatsink from a CPU, does the old thermal paste need to be removed from the heatsink and CPU, with NEW paste then applied before re-installation of the heatsink? If you don't, can this potentially damage the CPU?

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    Thanks!

    Yes, you need to clean the CPU and heatsink with cleaner or alcohol and then put on new paste. It wont cause damage using old paste, unless it overheats badly which is unlikely, but it will not cool very well as there will be trapped air bubbles in the paste

    Your socket looks fairly fine from what I can see in the images, some too dark and some too bright, I know it is tough to get good images of this.

    However I do see one pin that concerns me, can you take a few more images of this one or post any others you might not have posted already that are showing this area. It looks to me like this pin is bent out of place, bottom right quadrant in the corner edge





    This pin looks to be BA-5, which is Vss Ground, but that does not meant it could not cause these issues. Any pin could potentially cause this or any other issue, or failure to launch, or nothing at all. Do you have a steady hand? If so, and you feel comfortable try nudging that back into place with a needle, or the empty tip of a mechanical pencil. If you do be VERY Careful, do not push or pull too hard they are SUPER Frail and the tip of the pin will simply break off if you breath on it the wrong way. They can be moved you just must be very careful and not try too hard or too much, if you overbend it the wrong way it will most likely for sure snap off when you bend it back the other way so be sure you do not move it too hard/much.

    I am not saying this is something you should do, only letting you know it can be done if you feel comfortable trying to do so. If you do not want to then you may need to RMA, if you can't test with other memory

    Page 13 socket layout
    http://download.intel.com/design/pro...nex/320837.pdf

    Page 59 "BA" pins
    http://download.intel.com/design/pro...hts/320834.pdf

    No one to let you borrow a 750-850W PSU? Sorry, I just don't have much faith in sub 700W PSU's with X58. I know some work with 550-650 but I have only seen a few and none were the brand you mention. Can you tell me the model and I will see if I can find anyone successfully using that with X58?

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    I went back and double checked the pins on the socket; they all seem to be in pristine condition, including the one you pointed out. That photo was taken at a very close proximity to the board, so some lens distortion occurred. You can see the bracket bowing at the bottom quite clearly :P

    As for the PSU, this is the model A-Power.com - Buy Antec TP-650 650W TRUEPOWER Power Supply ATX 12V EPS12V 120MM FAN APFC PCI-E 80-PLUS SLI #10755 - TP-650 - Canada

    So you're saying that even if all other parts are in perfect working condition, my PSU could still be causing this problem because it's not carting enough power to the system? What I don't understand, is why would the system even start in the first place and then continue to shut down / restart / shut down / restart if the PSU were insufficient. I think part of me really wants to think this is the MOBO's fault due to all of the bad press I've read floating around the web.

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    Yes I can see the bow in the bracket due to the camera. Are you sure though, I can see it in all three images you posted and the pins right next to that are fine and not affected so I don't see how the image quality would make me see things like that in all three with no other pin defects.

    Mind taking a few more of just that corner, and possibly a few at semi-parallel angles to it as well.

    Yes, it could always be something else, PSU, CPU, ect. CPU could be DOA, it happens. I know this sucks to hear, but without separate hardware to test with you can neve be sure until you tested everything with something else.

    That cycle is a common symptom of insufficient PSU, bent pins, or a corrupted BIOS (Something we have not touched on). If you want I can direct you on how to short the MAIN BIOS to make the secondary kick in, that would allow you to see if the BIOS is the blame.

    Bad press is by un-knowledgeable users or people who do not search before buying and try to use known incompatible products. You will find the same type of complaints with ALL manufacturers boards, just the facts is all.

    I am using and LOVE Vista, Hate Win 7, does the Vista Bad press concern me? No, because I know better :)

    Intel will RMA the CPU for you, or can you take it where you purchased for testing? Just a second though on your CPU is all, wish I could help you personally, I'd stop over and test it all for you if I was close enough.

    I'll see if I can find anyone using that PSU on X58, I'll keep you posted

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    All I can find is users using this with P55 boards, and no reviews on this with X58 either. So not sure if that is a plus or not, most choose more power for X58 is the likely reason there but that does not meant it wont work. I know that is unhelpful, sorry I will get outta here for now :(
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    It would be fantastic if you would tell me how to short the main :) I think I read another guide on how to do it, but it didn't include any pictures, and the writing was unclear. Is shorting it any different than removing battery / holding clear cmos button / holding power button?

    Here are pics!






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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    Shorting the MAIN BIOS chip is VERY different then clearing the CMOS. What this does is effectively tells the board your MAIN BIOS chip is dead or corrupt, that will make the secondary kick in and copy it's contents over to the MAIN BIOS chip.

    This is generally last resort for someone who did a bad BIOS flash with @BIOS or otherwise, before they would need to RMA the board because it is essentially a brick without a working BIOS.

    Here is the thread with the method I suggest, use my method post #2, this has saved MANY boards from RMA and I have done it myself many times. As long as you are careful you will be fine, of course it may not help anything here though but it is worth a shot. Try a few times
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/how-...-failed-33904/

    BE SURE YOU SHORT THE MAIN BIOS!! NOT SECONDARY!!!

    And sorry, I knew I said that wrong (Parallel, I mean almost eye level but a bit above). I'd like to see images from the side kinda, almost level, as if I were looking down into it from the left side, with the socket but a bit below eye level looking towards that corner.

    It does look fine though in those images, so if you are sure it is then don't worry about more. If you are not 100% sure then please post some like I mention above

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    id put my money on the psu
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R Reboot loop issue

    Quote Originally Posted by wallz View Post
    Upon pressing the power button, computer starts up for appx. 4seconds, then immediately shuts down again. It sits for another 3 or 4 seconds, then starts back up, then shuts down, etc etc. This will continue for seemingly forever. To get it to stop I've got to flip the switch on the PSU.

    I've tried removing various components, unplugging and replugging in cables, different # of RAM sticks, clearing CMOS, etc. Nothing seems to get the computer to stay on for more than 5 seconds.
    Today I have exactly the same problem GA-X58A-UD3R and RAM (GOOD RAM 2 GB PC3-1060 GR1333D364L9/2G)
    LEDs near RAM slots shine and off every few seconds continuously, cpu fan starts and stops every few seconds continuously .

    I took out all modules of RAM and the computer turns on, LEDs shine but without restarting.
    Tried with one white 3_1 RAM module - same thing - starts and stops every few seconds continuously
    Before installing the CPU, I carefully examined the socket - no bad pins.

    My Config:
    GA-X58A-UD3R (SN: 101000019615) (new)
    Core i7-930 (new )
    Scythe Ninja 2 s1366 (CPU Cooler)
    2x GOOD RAM 2 GB PC3-1060 GR1333D364L9/2G (Wilk Elektronik - Qimonda IDSH1G-03A1F1C-13H chips) (new )
    EVGA 8800GT 512 Mb (my old graphics card working on other system)
    FSP 600-GLN (PSU) (new)
    750 Gb HDD Seagate (tested working)
    DVD-RW (tested working)

    Could this be a memory incompatibility problem? Any suggestions?
    Last edited by skiigor; 04-09-2010 at 02:37 AM.

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