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    Default Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    Hi

    I have the following problem with my GA-MA78G-UD3H, sometimes it doesn't boot up( all I can hear are fans working). When this happens the dvd-r led lits up(I even changed the PATA dvd for SATA one, no change here). Other than that, the mobo works fine, I get no stuttering in games (which excludes PSU problems) nor any random resets (ram also ok, confirmed by memtest).

    Do You have any suggestions what could cause this problems? Also the heat emission from this mobo is quite big, I get a 3-5 degree rise of temperature around the desk(doesn't affect the performance at least but it bothers me;) ) has anyone found a solution? Fans don't help, they just throw it out a bit faster:)

    DualCore AMD Athlon Black Edition 7850, 2800 MHz (14 x 200)
    Gigabyte GA-MA78G-UD3H bios F4
    4GB DDR2 800 Kingston
    NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO (384 MB)
    500W PSU MODECOM FEEL III


    Regards

    Mike

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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    I may be able to help. I do have some questions first. How many months have you had it? When did the problem start? When the problem occurs does it P.O.S.T.? 'POST beep show counted memory and such'? Can you go into Bios and post the results of PC health status? You may want to wait a few minutes for the temps to level off first. Below I have provided a template. Print it. Put your settings on it, and post it here in this forum thread.
    Code:
    PC Health Status
    Reset Case Open Status [Disabled]
    Case Opened No
    Vcore 1.376V
    DDR2 1.8V 1.872V
    +3.3V 3.328V
    +12V 12.112V
    Current System Temperature 30oC
    Current CPU Temperature 47oC
    Current CPU FAN Speed 3375 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN Speed 0 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN2 Speed 0 RPM
    Current POWER FAN Speed 0 RPM
    CPU Warning Temperature [Disabled]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control [Enabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Mode [Auto]
    System Smart FAN Control [Enabled]
    If you have had it a while, and heat is an issue the cpu fan and heat sink probably needs a good cleaning. You may want to buy a couple of cans of air and take the computer outside and use them. I believe this is a good place to start.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 04-13-2010 at 07:59 PM.
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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    The latest version I believe for that board is F5.

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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    Thanks for a quick reply.

    for clarification - I've had this problem since day one, and it was last july:) vents and radiators are cleared regularly .

    as for the required fields:

    PC Health Status
    Reset Case Open Status [Disabled]
    Case Opened Yes
    Vcore 1.23V
    DDR2 1.8V 1.872V
    +3.3V 3.328V
    +12V 11,84V
    Current System Temperature 41oC
    Current CPU Temperature 45oC
    Current CPU FAN Speed 2150 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN Speed 0 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN2 Speed 0 RPM
    Current POWER FAN Speed 0 RPM
    CPU Warning Temperature [Disabled]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control [Enabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Mode [Auto]
    System Smart FAN Control [Enabled]


    Sorry if they aren't complete, I've copied them from everest report
    vcore 1.23 V
    +2.5 V 1.95 V
    +3.3 V 3.30 V
    +5 V 5.08 V
    +12 V 11.84 V
    +5 V during standby 3.92 V
    VBAT baterii CMOS 3.15 V

    as for the POST, it doesn't start while this problem occurs, I get no response from keyboard, and also sometimes soft-off switch also doesn't work, and I have to switch off PSU.

    Hope this clarifies:)

    regards

    Mike
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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    OK I have a couple of settings that you may want to adjust. To start off Load Optimized Defaults save press y and exit. Reboot and go directly to BIOS again.
    Code:
    CMOS Setup Utility-Copyright (C) 1984-2008 Award Software
     MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
     Standard CMOS Features
     Advanced BIOS Features
     Integrated Peripherals
     Power Management Setup
     PnP/PCI Configurations
     PC Health Status
    Load Fail-Safe Defaults
    Load Optimized Defaults
    Set Supervisor Password
    Set User Password
    Save & Exit Setup
    Exit Without Saving
    Lets disable the smart fan controls for now which will allow the fans to run at full speed. Try each seperatly to see if it is one or the other. They may be running the fans a bit slow and creating to much heat. First try the System Smart FAN Control. You will need to save press y exit for each change to occur. Then the CPU Smart FAN Control. While here set the CPU Warning Temperature. The max is 73°C which would feel quite hot around the desk if it goes up that high.
    AMD Processors for Desktops: AMD Phenom™, AMD Athlon™ FX, AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual-Core, AMD Athlon™, and AMD Sempron™ Processor
    Please do not forget to save press y and exit after you make changes to bios.
    Code:
    PC Health Status
    Reset Case Open Status [Disabled]
    Case Opened No
    Vcore 1.376V
    DDR2 1.8V 1.872V
    +3.3V 3.328V
    +12V 12.112V
    Current System Temperature 30oC
    Current CPU Temperature 47oC
    Current CPU FAN Speed 3375 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN Speed 0 RPM
    Current SYSTEM FAN2 Speed 0 RPM
    Current POWER FAN Speed 0 RPM
    CPU Warning Temperature [Enabled 70oC/158oF]
    CPU FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    SYSTEM FAN Fail Warning [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Control [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Mode [Auto]
    System Smart FAN Control [Disabled]
    CPU Smart FAN Mode
    Specifies how to control CPU fan speed. This item is configurable only if CPU Smart FAN
    Control is set to Enabled.
    Auto Lets BIOS autodetect the type of CPU fan installed and sets the optimal CPU
    fan control mode. (Default)
    Voltage Sets Voltage mode for a 3-pin CPU fan.
    PWM Sets PWM mode for a 4-pin CPU fan.
    Lets adjust your DDR voltage down a little.
    For clarification When I set my ddr voltage to auto it kicks it up to 1.95v. When I set it to manual the ddr voltage runs a notch above 1.8v. When I do this I must save by pressing the y key and exit. If I don't press the y key it does not fully save it.
    [/CODE]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
     DRAM Configuration [Press Enter]
    HT Link Frequency [Auto]
    VGA Core Clock control [Disabled]
    x VGA Core Clock (Mhz) 500
    EPP Mode (Note 1) [Disabled]
    x EPP Voltage Control (Note 1) Normal
    CPU Clock Ratio [Auto]
    CPU NorthBridge Freq. (Note 2) [Auto]
    CPU Host Clock Control [Auto]
    x CPU Frequency (MHz) 200
    PCIE Clock (MHz) [Auto]
    Set Memory Clock [Auto]
    x Memory Clock x2.66
    ******** System Voltage Optimized ********
    System Voltage Control [Manual]
    x DDR2 Voltage Control ManualDo not adjust just set to manual
    x NorthBridge Volt Control Normal
    x SouthBridge Volt Control Normal
    x CPU NB VID Control (Note 2) Normal
    x CPU Voltage Control Normal
    Normal CPU Vcore 1.3500V[/CODE]
    After you make these adjustments you can look at your PC Health Status and see if the DDR voltage dropped as instructed. Try these settings and let us know.

    I believe vortex360 is suggesting you check to be sure you updated your Bios to F5
    The updated Bios for your motherboard Which I believe is the
    GA-MA780G-UD3H (rev .1.0)
    can be found below click the URL and scroll down to the download BIOS area. You will want to use the QFlash Bios update utility.
    GA-MA780G-UD3H (rev .1.0) - GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS

    Some good QFLASH instructions are below.
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot
    After a little more research I noticed this. Below is a pdf of your motherboard manual. Give it a bit to download and check out page 25. Your motherboard System Fan1 header has a speed control. System fan2 header has no speed control. You will want to plug your system fan into System fan1 header. You can plug a 3pin or 4 pin fan into it. Without speed control their is a possibility the fan may run slower, and their is no control over it. System fan2 header apears to be an area where someone may use a northbridge fan. http://download.gigabyte.ru/manual/m...80g_ud3h_e.pdf
    Last edited by artdrivers; 04-14-2010 at 08:31 PM.
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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    Hello again artdrivers:)

    I've tried this solution, so far I didn't get any more boot problems, the computer is noisier (as was expected, gotta change 70mm fans to 120mm sometime soon), and I got a significant efficiency boost - tried fallout 3, m&b warband and my wife played her sims 3 - all run about 10-15fps faster. talk about unexpected gains Heat problem prevails, although the core temp. is still around 40-43 celcius.

    Have anyone found a good northbridge cooler for this mobo? I'm guessing that it emits the most heat in this case.

    regards

    Mike:)

    Gigabyte4Life:)

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    I believe the largest gain you will get will be larger fans. Please post your PC Health Status again now showing the changes. Then again when you install larger fans. We would like to see them compared .
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    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
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    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
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    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
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    Default Re: Problems with GA-MA78G-UD3H - sometimes doesn't boot

    I agree, 70MM fans are loud and not very good coolers. Time to get some 120's!

    Put one of your 70MM fans over the NB Macgyver style once you get new fans, that will help NB Temps.

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