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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R very slow to the BIOS screen

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    AHCI would be easy to switch to, let me know if you want to try that out and I will tell you what you need to change. It likely is not going to help boot times though, maybe benchmarks by a few points though.
    x2 - Boot times will be the same - Am using the UD7 but for me IDE/AHCI will not show differences in boot time.

    Out of interest...

    When you click start, type "msconfig" and press enter - click on "boot" then "advanced options" - You now have "number of processors" and "maximum memory". Ive read various threads about whether this makes a difference or not, and from most of what ive read would suggest its for debugging only. I cant see any improvements in speeds in booting but was curious in why you would you use this to debug?

    I think myself its just the boards though when overclocked, as i said earlier it just seems to take a while to post but as you say after that its quick as normal.

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R very slow to the BIOS screen

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Connect your SATA HDD to SATAII_0 if you have not already, and put your CD/DVD Drive on SATAII_5.

    Vista/Win7 control panel often show either the speed at which the system was running when you installed it, or the last time you ran the WEI (sometimes this does not matter). So if you installed at stock speed, it may always say that speed.

    Just check with CPU-z to be sure your overclock is being applied.

    Gigabyte boards do take while to get going, this is normal, and especially so if you are overclocked because it runs though a few more checks before posting.

    I do suggest you go ahead and update to the latest Beta if you have not already. Are you using AHCI now?
    I switched my DVD drive to SATAII_5 and flashed to F6b using Qflash. All 3 drives (2 WD hard drives and the DVD drive) all show as Master now instead of one being a slave.
    None of the changes however did anything to improve the boot time to get to the BIOS screen...it's still approximately 25 seconds to that point. Yes, Quick Boot is enabled.

    I may try AHCI at some point but I doubt it will do anything for this boot issue. I read a thread on Windows 7 Forums on how to accomplish that without reinstalling using registry tweaks. Is there a thread here which discusses that also specifically geared to Gigabyte boards?

    I did check "msconfig" advanced tab, it does reflect 8 cores and my 12 gig but the blocks are not checked by default. They're not checked on my Q6600 either.

    It just seems so strange that it should take so long to get to the BIOS screen and like I said earlier, a friend has the exact same issue with nearly identical components.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R very slow to the BIOS screen

    When you say 25 seconds to the BIOS screen, which screen exactly are you referring to, and are you timing this or guessing 25 seconds? Can you make a video of this and upload it and post the URL here?

    I just want to have a look myself to see if this is maybe normal because Gigabyte's do take a while to load and if this is your first GBT board you may be used to different things happening with other brands.

    In regards to msconfig, I do not have any of those checked either and my systems boots normally in the time I expect it to.

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    oooohhh video video video :)

    I personally think its half the boad and half the oc settings as when its oc'd it does take longer to post.....

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    I actually timed the bootup at least 6 times with a stop watch and it averaged about 25 seconds to the BIOS screen. Since I'm moving I really don't have the time to be video recording unfortunately. Unless I'm going blind, it seems like sometimes I don't actually get the BIOS screen and I get an "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement (to the best of my recollection) at the top of the screen and then the Windows 7 screens come up. Other times , I boot and get the BIOS screen and immediately after get the "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement. In anycase, the BIOS or The "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement is still at about 25 seconds from the press of the button and Windows is complete/usable at around 51 seconds...so it has improved from my very original post but still not as good as my old Q6600 quad core on the ABIT IP35 Pro. So it's possible some of the tweaks suggested did help some (i.e., BIOS from F5 to F6b, DVDdrive to SATA II_5). I don't think OCing slowed down the boot process because I had this slow to BIOS screen problem long before I OCed.

    What do other people get for times to the BIOS screen on Gigabyte boards?
    It is my first Gigabyte board. They were all ASUS or ABIT previously. So I was accustomed to the BIOS screen popping up within seconds of hitting the switch.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by klownboy View Post
    What do other people get for times to the BIOS screen on Gigabyte boards?
    This will be interesting to see, ill have to time mine but im pretty sure its about the same as yours (UD7)

    Id make a video of it if i thought it was going to help the BIOS guys make future BIOS's faster to boot but i get the feeling its the board.

    If your reading this LSD... You know how some notebooks post their BIOSs from the hard drive and have very fast boot times, is this maybe not an option? Or is the problem you cant clear it like you can with the cmos? I dunno... do wish it posted faster though. My mate has an Asus notebook that has the above feature, when its switched on the BIOS is not even seen it goes so quick (admidally it doesnt boot windows as quick, just the BIOS and ONLY when booting the BIOS from the hard drive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by klownboy View Post
    I actually timed the bootup at least 6 times with a stop watch and it averaged about 25 seconds to the BIOS screen. Since I'm moving I really don't have the time to be video recording unfortunately. Unless I'm going blind, it seems like sometimes I don't actually get the BIOS screen and I get an "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement (to the best of my recollection) at the top of the screen and then the Windows 7 screens come up. Other times , I boot and get the BIOS screen and immediately after get the "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement. In anycase, the BIOS or The "Updating DMI pool (or data)" statement is still at about 25 seconds from the press of the button and Windows is complete/usable at around 51 seconds...so it has improved from my very original post but still not as good as my old Q6600 quad core on the ABIT IP35 Pro. So it's possible some of the tweaks suggested did help some (i.e., BIOS from F5 to F6b, DVDdrive to SATA II_5). I don't think OCing slowed down the boot process because I had this slow to BIOS screen problem long before I OCed.

    What do other people get for times to the BIOS screen on Gigabyte boards?
    It is my first Gigabyte board. They were all ASUS or ABIT previously. So I was accustomed to the BIOS screen popping up within seconds of hitting the switch.

    Thanks
    for me i found ahci faster in boot up times compared to ide,ide it will pause at the splash screen a good 5-10 seconds in ahci it flashes past so fast you hardly notice it,i did a little playing around with msconfig/boot/advanced when you tick the maximum memory it reserves 2gb of ram but only uses 500mb in resource monitor/hardware reserved presumably for boot up,i also clicked 8 processors,i also set the timeout from 20seconds to 10seconds,heres the screenshots to show you



    if you want to enable ahci in windows7 you need to make these changes in the registry,you can switch back to ide or ahci after you make thee changes whenever you want through the bios

    1.Exit all Windows-based programs.
    2.Click Start, type regedit in the Start Search box, and then press ENTER.
    3.If you receive the User Account Control dialog box, click Continue.
    4.Locate and then click the following registry subkey:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESystemCurrentControlSetServicesM sahci

    5.In the right pane, right-click Start in the Name column, and then click Modify.
    6.In the Value data box, type 0, and then click OK.
    7.On the File menu, click Exit to close Registry Editor

    After this you’ll have to restart your computer, go to BIOS and enable AHCI. When you log in to Windows again, you’ll notice the installation of drivers for AHCI. Another restart will be required to finish the driver installation
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R very slow to the BIOS screen

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    for me i found ahci faster in boot up times compared to ide,ide it will pause at the splash screen a good 5-10 seconds in ahci it flashes past so fast you hardly notice it,i did a little playing around with msconfig/boot/advanced when you tick the maximum memory it reserves 2gb of ram but only uses 500mb in resource monitor/hardware reserved presumably for boot up,i also clicked 8 processors,i also set the timeout from 20seconds to 10seconds,heres the screenshots to show you

    According to Microsoft MSConfig is only for debugging? I thought it made boots quicker as well until recently.

    Though i have changed my timeout from default to 3 as i dont have any other OS installed, though im not sure if it would even show the boot manager with only 1 os installed?

    You could also disable the GUI boot to shave a second or two off...
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    msconfig lets you configure boot up ect,thats why you can select to use all 4 processors/8 with multithreading at boot up,plus other stuff
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R very slow to the BIOS screen

    Yes thats what i thought too until recently when i got told it was for debugging only and would automatically boot up with all cores etc. Im pretty sure i read a Microsoft statment somewhere, will see if i can find it

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