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    Question S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    Hi,

    I've been using the UD7 board for a few weeks now after upgrading from an older Asus P5K-E (LGA775) board, and everything seems to work perfectly, except I have yet to get my rig to wake up from S3 sleep. I've been searching countless forums for several days now without result. It may very well not have anything to do with the mobo, but I don't know where else to start.

    From what I've gathered so far there seems to be almost as many causes behind this problem as the problems themselves, and for me to have any chance of solving this issue, I'll try to be as specific in describing the symptoms as possible.

    My specs are as follows:
    MB: GA-X58A-UD7
    CPU: i7 920 D0
    RAM: Corsair DominatorTR3X6G1600C8D (6gb)
    HDD: Intel X25-M 80GB SSD Gen.2
    GPU: Sapphire Vapor-X HD5870 1GB
    OS: Win7 Home Prem. 64

    BIOS: I'm currently on the latest F7h BIOS, and I've also tried both F5 and F6 from gigabytes official UD7 download page.

    Exactly what happens:
    When entering S3 sleep (both timed and manual activation) the computer saves to ram and powers down everything in what seems like normal S3 sleep behaviour. I'll then press a key on the keyboard and the computer seems to be powering up again and the fans start spinning. But then nothing more happens...

    During the attempted wakeup the UD7 POST error code LED seems to cycle three times through C1 as it would during a normal boot, but then halts at CF instead of moving to C3 and furhter towards FF like normal. Now, I'm aware that this may not be abnormal, as S3 to my knowledge won't execute a normal full boot like hibernate (which actually works perfectly on my machine) does, but I suspect the leds are supposed to show FF again after S3 wakeup? Any feedback here as to what the LEDs show for other UD7 users that are able to recover successfully from S3 sleep, when resuming, would be greatly appreciated.

    This behaviour had me leaning towards faulty ram modules, but Memtest86+ v.4.10 completes just fine with no errors. Also when manually forcing shutdown after a failed resume, and then booting again, windows resumes correctly from the previous pre-sleep state with the "Resuming Windows" screen, much like hibernate would.

    As for BIOS settings I've tried loading both failsafe and optimized defaults, tried forcing most MIT settings on manual insted of auto, and
    tried every combination I can think of at the BIOS power management settings (also in combination with different Windows 7 power settings). No OC'ing going on as of yet btw. Ram tested at both stock speed and XMP profile.

    I've also read several places that dafault BIOS settings may need some tweaking to operate successfully with S3, but since I'm not that experienced in this field, it's just been guesswork so far. I've tried upping dram and qpi/vtt voltage, but to no avail.

    Even tried a complete format/re-install of Win7 with a different Catalyst driver only (official 10.4 version instead of beta version.) in the off chance that it could be GPU related. I'm not so sure about this though, as I'm suspecting the wakeup process doesn't even get to the point of re-posting any video. Also tried all other latest hardware drivers.

    A few last thoughts:
    Keyboard wakes up the machine, but power seems to disappear again when the UD7 settles on the CF error code, as the keyboard lights go out again. Pressing the mouse buttons won't wakeup the machine in the first place (probably device manager power settings, but that's okay), but when pressing a mouse button while on CF error, the mouse lights up, but nothing more. All other pheripherals like ethernet, audio etc. are disconnected. S1 sleep works fine, but it's not quite what I'm looking for.

    Well, that should be about it :) I've probably forgotten to mention something, but I'll leave it up to you helpful experts to ask for other relevant pieces of information. At this point I'm left with no idea whatsoever what the cause(s) of the problem is, and I'd be super grateful to see the problem resolved.

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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    what qpi/vtt and dram voltages/timings are you using??
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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    I'm currently on 1.15V qpi/vtt and 1.5V dram when running the ram at 1066mhz with 8-8-8-20-1t timings, which seems to be recommended according to SPD/BIOS.

    I've also tried the XMP profile at 1600mhz (running auto voltages) with 1.65V dram and 8-8-8-24-2t timings. Qpi/vtt voltage seem to remain at 1.15V in the "Normal" column for "Advanced Voltage Control", but under MIT/Dram Timing Selectable it says "Profile QPI Voltage 1.35V in blue print when selecting the XMP profile. Should I change this manually to 1.35V under Advanced Voltage Control or am I confusing two different voltages?

    As a sidenote my QPI Clock Ratio is set manually to x36, and Uncore Clock Ratio to x20. Do these need to be changed in any way when changing qpi/vtt or dram voltage?

    Also the increments for both qpi/vtt and dram when running at 1600mhz, are either qpi/vtt 1.34 or 1.36 (in red print), and for dram 1.64 or 1.66 (red print).

    What RAM speed, voltages and timings would you recommend for troubleshooting?

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    those voltages are ok to me,you could lower qpi/vtt to 1.320000 or 1.30000v @1066 or 1600mhz speed,dram is fine @1.66 in the bios which will be 1.65 in windows,better to use 8-8-8-24-1T than 2T,qpi clock ratio is fine at 36x,but Uncore Clock Ratio is better set to 21x.......to work this out its 2x what your ram multiplier is then add 1x or 2x to it so an 8ram multiplier will be either 17 or 18x uncore freq,whatevers the most stable,id use 17x,also set system performance enhance to standard,try an see if it helps with s3 sleep resume,you still might have to wait for a bios fix to correct it.......it took a long time for same issue to be resolved with the ud5 board
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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    Thank you very much for your input. However, none of the changes seemed to help with resuming from sleep.

    Just to be sure I understand you correctly, for 1600mhz ram operation, I'd be advised to set dram at 1.66v, qpi/vtt at about 1.32v, timings at 8-8-8-24-1T(even though it's listed as 2T in xmp, wouldn't that make it become less stable?) and finally uncore freq. at x25 or x26 as the dram multiplier is 12 (x 133bclk)?

    Would it also be possible that the cpu clock ratio and bclk has any impact on sleep? Mine is currently set at 20 x 133 .

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    i dont think it would affect anything,it shouldnt be less stable with 1T command rate,1.32v qpi/vtt wont hurt anything whether at 1066mhz or 1600mhz ram speed, 25 or 26x uncore freq always 2xram multi +1 or+2,i think its a bios issue maybe newer ones will fix it
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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    The normal POST LED process during resume from S3 sleep is CF - CF - CF - E1 - FF (Very fast!)

    I have not used a BIOS for this board that would not resume, at 200+ Bclk or 4.2Ghz+, although I have not used the very latest yet I am sure it is fine though as any fixes would carry over from previous BIOSes.

    Just tested using F7e this morning for you at 4.2Ghz, tested twice for 2-3 minutes and then for 5 hours in S3 without issue. Clocks are off in my event viewer though, not sure why but I am sure it doesn't have anything to do with sleep because they have always been off?

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    You must be 100% stable to be able to resume, sounds like you are not testing or not doing so for long enough, and or you have not found the right settings yet.

    Please grab a template from my signature and give us your full current settings you are trying.

    For 1600Mhz you may need 1.25-1.4 QPI/Vtt depending on the memory itself, your CPU, and the timings and uncore you are using. Higher uncore can help sometimes too, voltages aside.

    I do advise also that you do not use the x20 CPU multi, it is harder to get stable and will take more voltages to get there then you really want to use. Yes, use 1T, that should be fine unless your memory is cheap/budget set.

    Manually set Uncore to 2x memory multi, or above such as 2x +1-2 which is sometimes much better for stability and performance.

    Also be sure that you are starting from Optimized Defaults, and NOT Fail Safe!

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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    Have reset CMOS and started from scratch with Optimized Defaults. Changed some settings to get a 19x CPU multiplier instead, full settings below:

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    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ............................ [19x] (2.66GHz, 140x19)
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled] Tested with this off
    CPU Cores Enabled .......................... [All]
    CPU Multi Threading ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) .................... [Enabled] Tested with this off
    C3/C6/C7 State Support ..................... [Disabled] Tested with this on
    CPU Thermal Monitor ........................ [Enabled] Tested with this off
    CPU EIST Function .......................... [Enabled] Tested with this off
    Virtualization Technology .................. [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled] Tested with this off
     
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed ............................. [x36] (5.04GHz)
    Uncore Frequency ........................... [x25] (3500MHz) 
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................... [Enabled]
     
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control .................. [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ....................... [140]
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ................ [100]
     
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
     
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ........................ [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ............. [Profile1]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ............. [12.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............... [Quick]
    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ........................... [8]
    tRCD ....................................... [8]
    tRP ........................................ [8]
    tRAS ....................................... [24]
    Command Rate (CMD) ......................... [1] Tested with this on 2
    Everything else left on auto for DRAM settings.
     
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ...................... [Standard]
    CPU Vcore .................................. [1.29375V] Tested with this on auto
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ..................... [1.320V] Tested with this at 1.150V
    CPU PLL 1.800v ............................. [1.800V]
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ................................ [Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ............................. [Auto]
    IOH Core 1.100v ............................ [1.100V]
    ICH I/O 1.500v ............................. [Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v .............................. [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ........................ [1.660V] Tested with this on 1.500V
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    I've also switched my GPU for a new 2GB Radeon 5970, so faulty GPU seems unlikely.

    Haven't really done any long-term stability testing yet though, since I'm more or less running at stock speeds for both CPU and RAM. What kind of tests would you reccommend, and for how long?

    Thank you both so much for all your helping efforts so far!

    EDIT: After a quick Prime95 run I found the settings above to BSOD a few seconds into blend testing.... Changed CPU Multiplier to x21, BCLK to 127, Uncore to x26 and lowered Vcore a bit, forgot that value but Everest reports 1.20V vcore. Haven't had time to do extensive prime testing (more than a few minutes) on these new settings yet. Still no resume from sleep though.
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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    prime 95 would be good to test with,some say 12 hour but youll find errors within 3-4 imo
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    Default Re: S3(STR) Sleep Wakeup problem with GA-X58A-UD7

    Since I am sure you are still tinkering around I will wait for you to post new settings you are trying then I will advise.

    You must get prime95 or LinX stable to resume from S3 sleep, so no need trying to until you get stable

    Disable XMP and set the memory yourself, Uncore multi (2x memory or 2x +1-2) as well, QPI/Vtt (May need 1.35-1.425) and Dram voltage too

    I'll help you with full settings once I hear back from you again.

    Are you wanting to stay at 140 Bclk or go higher?

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