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Thread: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode




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    Default Re: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode

    I tested my HDD in IDE and AHCI mode and I don't see any big difference in performance. So I will use IDE mode for now.

    AHCI:


    Native IDE:

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    Default Re: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode

    HDD Seagate ST3160023A 160 GB connected as IDE master.
    DVD-RW LG SuperMulti GSA-4160B connected as IDE slave.
    Are you asking a ultra ATA100 Hard Drive to work on the same ribbon with a Ultra DMA33 DVDRW? No please get another SATA DVD-RW or a SATA HDD. If you get another SATA Drive you may want to connect it to SATAII 4 The SATA HDD to SATAII_0 through SATAII_3 thats one of the first 4 SATAII connectors. Then go into bios and set it like this.
    Code:
    Integrated Peripherals
    OnChip IDE Channel [Enabled]
    Onboard 1394 Function [Enabled]
    Onboard LAN Function [Enabled]
    Onboard LAN Boot ROM [Disabled]
     SMART LAN [Press Enter]
    OnChip SATA Controller [Enabled]
    OnChip SATA Type [AHCI]
    x OnChip SATA Port4/5 Type IDE
    Onboard Audio Function [Enabled]
    OnChip USB Controller [Enabled]
    USB EHCI Controller [Enabled]
    USB Keyboard Support [Enabled]
    USB Mouse Support [Disabled]
    Legacy USB storage detect [Enabled]
    Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
    Onboard Parallel Port [378/IRQ7]
    Parallel Port Mode [SPP]
    x ECP Mode Use DMA 3
    You are trying to strech the DMA boundries here.
    DVD-RW is PIO mode 4 / Ultra DMA 33 only requires a 40 wire 40 pin ribbon.
    The HDD is PIO mode 6 / Ultra ATA 100 requires a 80 wire 40 pin ribbon. You should not have them both on the same ribbon.
    An ATA 100/133 80 wire 40 pin ribbon usually will be only backward compliant to ATA66-ATA100 and ATA133 but not backward compliant to Ultra DMA 33
    They sometimes may work but not well and you could cause damage to the HDD. At best the HDD is running at ATA66 when connected with the DVD-RW
    Last edited by artdrivers; 05-22-2010 at 03:22 AM.
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    Default Re: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode

    That DVD-RW is ATA66 (Ultra DMA 4). 80pin cable is used. It was running together with this disk for 7 years on my old motherboard. HDD is used for backups only, DVD-RW is used rarely. I wanted to stay with them for a while until I will buy new case. Then I will buy new DVD-RW too so it matches case colour. Just practical reason :-)

    To your settings:
    Why does the DVD need to be connected to SATA2_4 connector? I have already read in this forum that it is recommended to do so, but I would like to know why.
    What happens when I set SATA 4/5 ports to "As SATA type" (so it uses AHCI too)? Any negatives?

    Thank you.

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    Default Re: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode

    I agree with their is very little difference in IDE and AHCI. Unless you are using the a hotswap. In IDE I can get hard drive temps in speedfan or hwmonitor. In AHCI I loose them. I have a RAID-0 and it is twice as fast for data exchange. But no real speed increase with AHCI.
    I'm not trying to sell anything here, but you can get SATA DVD-RW's at a very reasonable price.
    Newegg.com - DVD Burners, External DVD Burner, CD DVD Burners, DVD Media
    CD Burner, DVD Burner, Blu-Ray Drive, Blu-Ray Burner, CD DVD Burner, External DVD Burner, DVD Burners, CD Burners at TigerDirect.com
    It was running together with this disk for 7 years on my old motherboard
    I am just warning you this has caused damage to run the 2 on the same ide. It is not wise. Most older systems were set up with 2 ide channels a primary and a secondary. The hdd's usually on primary kind of like the photo below shows.

    By artdrivers at 2010-04-29
    Yes Some SATA DVD-RWs only work in ide mode. If you set your SATAII_0 through 3 to RAID/AHCI Then the SATAII_4 and 5 as SATA type will be the same. This is a split point on your controller to allow you to do both.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 05-22-2010 at 10:18 AM.
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    Default Re: Slave IDE device not detected when SATA in AHCI/RAID mode

    For me, temperatures are displayed in speedfan regardless I use IDE or AHCI mode. What's more interesting is that whole SMART status is readable although I disabled it in BIOS.

    I will probably buy DVD-RW Samsung SH-S223L which I have found in our shop. I don't need hotswap. And when I get it I will test both modes to see how the drive works.

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