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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    remind me what your current cpu and qpi/vtt voltages are? and ram timings
    I,ve now added the template below as asked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Please post your full settings in a template from my signature, then we can better advise back settings.

    Until I see your full settings I can't really advise much other than what has been said above, but a lot has not been discussed so please do get us your full settings.

    Also for 4Ghz 1.96 CPU PLL is a lot. I think you will be fine with 1.8-1.84
    Sorry I should have said that the current settings are (shown in easytune) those shown on the right (target) and not those on the left (power up). Sorry again about the confusion. CPU PLL is in fact at 1.84 ATM.

    Thank you both for your kind help, I really appreciate it.

    I'm now enclosing the template that you ask for (is this OK?):
    *****************************************
    CPU = Intel i7 930
    Motherboard = Gigabyte x58a-ud3r, Revision 1.0
    BIOS Version = F5
    Ram = OCZ, OCZ3G1600LV6GK

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Didabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16 (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 191
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]
    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP .........................................9
    tRAS .......................................24
    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control## << all [AUTO]
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC .......................................
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control## << all [AUTO]
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................

    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.3 << (tried to set this as high as 1.355 but still fail)
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.315 << (tried to set this as high as 1.415 but still fail)
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.4
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

    -----------------------------
    For the sake of completeness I add my system specs again:

    Lian Li PC-7FNB[/URL]
    Corsair TX Series 750W [/URL]
    Intel Core i7 930 (OC @ 4GHZ)[/URL]
    Prolimatech Megahalems Rev B CPU Cooler [/URL]+ Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1450 RPM Cooling Fan [/URL]
    Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5850 OC[/URL]
    Samsung HD103SJ SpinPoint F3 1TB [/URL]
    Sony 24x Internal DVDRW [/URL]
    Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R [/URL]
    OCZ 6GB PC3-12800 DDR3 Gold Low-Voltage[/URL]
    Last edited by uccy; 06-08-2010 at 04:55 PM.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Thanks!

    Try these settings

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Didabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16 (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1) << Set x16-18
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 191
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard] << try Turbo/Extreme, I have seen Standard cause issues on X58 unlike older boards where standard was better
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << Set x8
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP .........................................9
    tRAS .......................................24


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... << Check with CPU-Tweaker to see what value auto is giving you. If it is not 78 or above please set 84-88
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ << 1T
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................

    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.3 << you may need 1.325-1.4
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.315 (tried to set this as high as 1.355 but still fail) << you may need 1.375-1.4, all depends on your CPU don't be scared of it, if you are getting 124 BSOD then you need more
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.4 << Stock 1.10 or 1.14-1.2. What you are using is WAY to much
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    I just spotted some mistakes I've done while filling the template (must have been asleep):

    - System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << Set x8 (was already 8x)
    - Command Rate (CMD) ................ << 1T (as above)
    - IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.4 << Stock 1.10 or 1.14-1.2. What you are using is WAY to much (as above, already 1.14)

    Anyway, I'm going to try all your suggestions and come back with the results.
    Bye for now and thanks again.

    EDIT: TrFC was also at 86
    Last edited by uccy; 06-08-2010 at 05:27 PM.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Ahh ok, cool to see you weren't really using 1.4 IOH :)

    Good luck tweaking and testing!

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Hello I'm back,

    I've tried all your suggestions but the freezing/rebooting problem is still there.

    - tried setting uncore multi to 18
    - qpi/vtt to 1.415
    - Vcore to 1.355
    - IOH core 1.2
    - Performance enhance (turbo, extreme)

    To rule out OS/system imbalance I,ve run the Prime95 blend test this morning, without the OC settings. and it run without problems for over 2 hours.
    I've heard "rumours" that the OCZ gold (my memory type) may have some issues with an OC system, could it be that?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    what timings are you using?try looser timings
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
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    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
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    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    what timings are you using?try looser timings
    Currently 9,9,9,24,1T

    Do you suggest I go lower than these?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    you could try just to see if it helps with the freezing,try with 9-9-9-28-1T you wont notice any difference from 24 to 28
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

    Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
    Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    you could try just to see if it helps with the freezing,try with 9-9-9-28-1T you wont notice any difference from 24 to 28
    I've tried 28 and still froze.

    However I then reverted back to my original settings and only changed the memory multiplier to x6 (1146mhz) and run Prime95 blend test for 2 hours ok.

    Any Idea as to why this is? I'm happy to leave at that multi unless you have further suggestions.

    This is the working template:


    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 191
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x6]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP .........................................9
    tRAS .......................................24


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... << Check with CPU-Tweaker to see what value auto is giving you. If it is not 78 or above please set 84-88
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................

    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.3
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.315
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.14
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    i think you would be better of with some other ram idk for sure but you can get a batch that doesnt overclock very well,trouble is ram prices in the uk have trippled since i bought mine,there was some ocz obsidian kits on www.overclockers.co.uk for 114 but they too have gone up in price,i remember paying just 96 for my kit over a year ago

    have you tried with timings on auto? see how far it gets
    Last edited by wazza300; 06-08-2010 at 11:54 PM.
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

    Lots Of Gaming Videos With X58 Ud5 System And Gpu On My Youtube Channel!!
    Just Uploaded New Battlefield 4 Video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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