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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    I need to know your current full settings before I could say really, but just a guess I'd say you might be able to lower either a few notches.

    Either way, if I see your full settings or not, you would just need to try lowering them one notch at a time and test as you go.

    Why are you using x6 memory anyway, you should at least run the memory at stock using x8 mem multi

    As discussed in the above posts, the OCZ Gold 1600mhz must be a bad batch and gives me random freezes and reboots when trying to run prime blend test. The only thing that worked was to lower the memory multi from x8 to x6.

    For the sake of completeness here are previous quotes about the problem and the current settings.

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by uccy View Post
    Hello I'm back,

    I've tried all your suggestions but the freezing/rebooting problem is still there.

    - tried setting uncore multi to 18
    - qpi/vtt to 1.415
    - Vcore to 1.355
    - IOH core 1.2
    - Performance enhance (turbo, extreme)

    To rule out OS/system imbalance I,ve run the Prime95 blend test this morning, without the OC settings. and it run without problems for over 2 hours.
    I've heard "rumours" that the OCZ gold (my memory type) may have some issues with an OC system, could it be that?

    Quote Originally Posted by uccy View Post
    I've tried 28 and still froze.

    However I then reverted back to my original settings and only changed the memory multiplier to x6 (1146mhz) and run Prime95 blend test for 2 hours ok.

    Any Idea as to why this is? I'm happy to leave at that multi unless you have further suggestions.

    This is the current template:


    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 191
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x6]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO]

    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control## << All AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    CAS Latency Time ......................8
    tRCD .......................................8
    tRP .........................................8
    tRAS .......................................20


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... 64 << AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T << AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................

    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.3
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.315
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.14
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Last edited by uccy; 06-09-2010 at 09:36 PM.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    I answered lsdmeasap with the requested template (post above) as I'm not sure what qpi/vtt and Dram voltage to set for the current memory.
    When I change the uncore to 12-14 the system loops on bootup and needs a CMOS reset.

    Can someone help me please?



    This is the current template again:


    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 191
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [x6]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO]

    Channel A + B + C
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control## << All AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    CAS Latency Time ......................8
    tRCD .......................................8
    tRP .........................................8
    tRAS .......................................20


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ...................................... (Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP ....................................... (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... 64 << AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1T << AUTO but these are the readings I get from CPU-Z
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    B2B CAS Delay ..........................

    Advanced Voltage Control:
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 1]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.3
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.315
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.14
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO][/QUOTE]

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    try with 13x uncore freq but looser timings of 9-9-9-24,qpi/vtt and cpu voltages keep the same
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Aaah, I knew you'd answed that, LOL

    Thanks wazza, you're very helpful as ever.
    Now for the good news it boots OK with uncore = 13 (not 12) and I've left timings to AUTO also (gives 8-8-8-20-1T).
    The mistake I was making was to also lower the qpi/vtt and Dram voltage a couple of notches as suggested by lsdmeasap and that didn't work.

    Strange though as the SPD timings table in CPU-Z (as shown on a couple of posts back) shows this ram should work at 1.5v for the current frequency.

    But for now I'm very happy, until I get some ram replacement.

    Thanks again

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    what ram speed are you using? have you tried to use 1600mhz again?? why dont you try with a 21x180 bclk for cpu and a 10x ram multi giving you 1440mhz ram speed??? keep voltages the same,or a 21x170 bclk giving you 3.6ghz and 8x ram multiplier giving you 1360mhz ram speed???
    Last edited by wazza300; 06-10-2010 at 01:25 AM.
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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    I could try that (maybe I will) but the shop where I bought the ram is organising a swap with a different memory, I'll take it from there.
    If there are any problems with the new ram, I'll let you know, actually I'll let you know whatever the outcome.

    Thanks again for now.

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Sounds like this kit might not be 100% compatible, and that may be why it is failing for you at stock specs.

    Nice to hear you are getting a trade in kit, which are you getting now?

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Sounds like this kit might not be 100% compatible, and that may be why it is failing for you at stock specs.

    Nice to hear you are getting a trade in kit, which are you getting now?
    They'll probably replace it with a Patriot Viper Extreme Performance 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz (PVT36G1600LLK ).

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Let us know how those work... Of course you will what am I thinking :)

    I thought about reviewing those but never got around to asking them for a sample

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    Default Re: X58A-UD3R Cold boot problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Let us know how those work... Of course you will what am I thinking :)

    I thought about reviewing those but never got around to asking them for a sample
    As promised I'm letting you know the outcome.

    The system has been returned to me and the problem (I was told) was with the Gigabyte MB voltages and not the OCZ ram, this has now been swapped for an ASUS P6X58D-E and so as not to take any chances the ram has also been swapped for a Corsair brand.
    The system is now very stable and I'm very happy at last.

    Thanks again lsdmeasap and wazza for all your help, I really appreciated the time and expertise given.

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