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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    I may just have to re-install and go the route or letting windows manage everything.
    This sounds like a good idea. It worked for me more than once. Other things to try are run memtest86+ v4.10→ Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
    We also think we should mention the PSU is a 450 watt with dual +12v rails at only 14A and 13A. This is week for that setup. We seriously would recommend you getting a good PSU. This could be the issue. This is from page 24 of your motherboard manual.↓
    With the use of the power connector, the power supply can supply enough stable power to all the components on the motherboard. Before connecting the power connector, first make sure the power supply is turned off and all devices are properly installed. The power connector possesses a foolproof design. Connect the power supply cable to the power connector in the correct orientation. The 12V power connector mainly supplies power to the CPU. If the 12V power connector is not connected, the computer will not start.
    • To meet expansion requirements, it is recommended that a power supply that can withstand high power consumption be used (500W or greater). If a power supply is used that does not provide the required power, the result can lead to an unstable or unbootable system.• The power connectors are compatible with power supplies with 2x2 12V and 2x10 power connectors. When using a power supply providing a 2x4 12V and a 2x12 power connector, remove the protective covers from the 12V power connector and the main power connector on the motherboard. Do not insert the power supply cables into pins under the protective covers when using a power supply providing a 2x2 12V and a 2x10 power connector.
    We have provided a downloadable link ↓Here↓ a pdf of your motherboard manual. Give it a bit to download.
    http://download.gigabyte.ru/manual/m...-ud(s)2h_e.pdf
    Also we think you may want to update to the latest BIOS. F11 is a long way from F7. You can find it below. Use QFlash to flash it. (YES it is a good idea to do this.)
    http://download.gigabyte.cn/FileList...m-us2h_f11.exe
    Here is a Qflash tutorial provided by Lsdmeasap. http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/
    Also there are some QFLASH instructions in the signature below. If you have questions feel free to ask. Let us know how this goes.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-08-2010 at 11:41 AM.
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    Thanks for the advice and all of the help it is appreciated.

    Couple of thoughts though.

    Back to the bios settings. I guess since there was no comment about the setting I posted then there were no problems with my bios settings?

    Regarding the memory. This isn't new memory. I was using it in my old system for almost a year and it was rock solid. Never had a single problem with it. However, I won't discount there being a memory problem. I will run memtest but wanted to let you know about that.

    Regarding power supply. Definately noted that this does not meet the min recommended power. This is the one I was thinking about buying. Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply

    Regarding Bios. I was going to update the bios but I wanted a stable system first and I have been sketchy since all this started. Which leads back to my first statement about the bios settings.

    1. Order new PSU
    2. Update bios
    3. Reinstall windows and don't install the ATI drivers or AMD drivers. Let windows do it.
    4. Wait and see how it runs.

    EDIT - Regarding PSU again...would a low wattage psu be a cause of random reboots when the system is idle. I would have thought the random reboots while the system is being taxed would be more likely. I have seen a fair share of reboots when the system has been idle for some time.
    Last edited by stravy; 07-08-2010 at 12:09 PM.
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    All of these suggestions are just that suggestions. They have resolved issues with others.
    You may want to do this in this order.
    1. Test memory with memtest86+ (just in case it has gone bad from age or handling)
    2. Reinstall windows and don't install the ATI drivers or AMD drivers. Let windows do it.
    Let us know how it performs. After each change this is more informative to test separately.
    3. Order and install a new PSU. The heart of the system.
    Let us know how it performs. Yes it's a bit redundant but helpful to others looking here for their issues.
    4. Definently update the bios to F11. Future proofing the system.
    Let us know how it performs. Scientific results are better for total resolve.
    5. After you flash the main bios and you know it is fully stable. Flash the backup BIOS. More future proofing.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-09-2010 at 12:29 AM.
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    @ artdrivers

    OK

    Here is where I am at. I ran memtest86+ v4.0. As soon as it started running, errors started showing up. Something like 50 in the first minute memtest was running. I changed the timings from 4-4-4-12 to 5-5-5-18 and ran memtest for 5 minutes and recieved 9 errors.

    I called Crucial's tech support and the tech asked if I ran memtest on a hot system or a cold system. It was being run on a hot system. Meaning my computer had been on for a long while, couple days at least. He told me to shut my computer off and let it cool for 30 minutes then run memtest. He said that if after running memtest on a cold computer and you recieved no errors then it is a heat issue and you will need ram fans. If you recieve errors then it is most likely a bad stick of ram.

    The computer was off for about an hour and a half. I ran memtest for a wall time of 37 minutes and it completed all tests at least once. There were no errors.

    So, what does this all mean? Do I have bad ram, do I have a heat issue, is the power supply inadequate, or are there ddr settings in the bios that can correct the issue?

    I have a mid tower case with two 120 mm case fans. One in front and one in the rear. The front is receiving air from out side and the rear is discharging air.
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    Just add a 80mm fan directly on the top of your memory, fasten it with a rubber band or something, then test for a few days and see if the issue stays gone. If it does then keep the fan on the memory

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    I don't believe it is a heat issue. The PC Health Status shows temps are good.
    You could be getting errors from Windows drivers. If you have errors on the memory in Windows.
    I think when you rebooted to memtest+ the memory didn't have time to clear in the reboot process. Not untill you turnned it off for an hour then it cleared.
    Here are a couple of suggestions that may help with that memory.
    Try raising memory voltage to 2.1v Sometimes raising voltage a tad will help stop the errors.
    If you still are getting errors RMA memory. Get memory specifically designed for AMD.
    Code:
    DRAM Configuration
    DDRII Timing Items [Manual] SPD Auto
    x CAS# latency 5T 5T 5T
    x RAS to CAS R/W Delay 5T 5T 5T
    x Row Precharge Time 5T 5T 5T
    x Minimum RAS Active Time [18T] 18T 18T
    x 1T/2T Command Timing 2T -- --
    x TwTr Command Delay 3T 3T 3T
    x Trfc0 for DIMM1 127.5ns 127.5ns 127.5ns
    x Trfc2 for DIMM2 127.5ns 127.5ns 127.5ns
    x Trfc1 for DIMM3 Auto -- --
    x Trfc3 for DIMM4 Auto -- --
    x Write Recovery Time 8T6T 6T
    x Precharge Time 3T 3T 3T
    x Row Cycle Time 24T 23T 23T
    x RAS to RAS Delay 3T 3T 3T
    If the errors are caused by Windows drivers reinstall Windows Use Windows drivers.
    As you stated it only happens when the computer has been on for a long time.
    If you still get errors replace the power supply. Let us know how that goes.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-09-2010 at 07:53 PM.
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    UPDATE: I have been running memtest since last night, wall time was 7 hours 40 minutes. There are NO reported errors. This is with my timings set back to 4-4-4-12.

    Not a 100% convinced this has anything to do with the memory.
    Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Just add a 80mm fan directly on the top of your memory, fasten it with a rubber band or something, then test for a few days and see if the issue stays gone. If it does then keep the fan on the memory
    I may try this out but the problem is very random and sometimes will not happen for a week or two. I appreciate all the help here but I have been monkeying with these components since early april. All I want is a stable system that I can rely on.

    Let me ask this: Would there be considerable heat difference when the computer is running memtest vs. running windows? Keep in mind most of the reboots happen when the computer is not being used (not sleeping...the screen is just off and I am away from the computer) and I have not installed a game on the computer yet.

    I say reboots but what I really mean is the sytem reboots itself b/c it has encountered a critical error. At least that is what windows tells me when I log back in.
    Last edited by stravy; 07-09-2010 at 11:20 PM.
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    UPDATE: Memtest has been running for 17+ hours without an error.
    Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
    AMD Athlon II x4 630
    Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H, rev 1.1, F11
    Crucial Ballistix 4GB Kit (2x2) DDR2 800 BL2KIT25664AA80A
    Gigabyte GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-Bit DDR3
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    Default Re: do i need to install the gigabyte drivers for ga-ma785gm-us2h

    UPDATE: Memtest has been running for 17+ hours without an error
    It seems your memory is good. You may want to try the next step. Reinstall Windows and use Windows 7 Drivers and updates. Then if you can grab that power supply if the deal is still on. It's a good power supply with a good discount. Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
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    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
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    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
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    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
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    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
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