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    Question GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Hi Everyone:

    I'm out of ideas.

    I have my rig oc'd nicely, stable with prime, 12 passes memtest. Really fast - works great.

    Except...

    When I do a warm boot the bios overclock warning comes up and FSB is set back to stock @ 200.

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    The system has experienced boot failures because of overclocking.
    
    Last settings in BIOS setup may not coincide with current H/W  states.
    Notes:
    -When I set the FSB back to 286, save and exit bios and it auto-reboots, it works great.
    -When I power down and wait a few seconds then power up it's fine.
    -When I get the above message, then press and hold the power button, turn it off, wait a few seconds and cold boot, it keeps the oc and is fine.

    -When Windows is up and I Start->Restart I get the above alert and my FSB is reset back to stock @200.
    -When I press the reset button I get the above alert and my FSB is reset back to stock @200.

    -A good post message shows the memory at 1066 Ganged.
    -A failed oc message shows the memory at 1366 Ganged, and FSB back to 200.

    -The OS it's stable with prime.
    -12 memtest passes, no errors.
    Things I have tried:
    -Step the CPU, CPU-NB voltage
    -Step the NB Freq
    -Change memory speed and timings
    -Raise and lower onboard video settings
    -memtest, prime
    -swap psu
    -swap RAM
    -change onboard video ports from VGA to DVI (havent tried hdmi - no hdmi input on my monitor)
    Would anyone be able to help me fix this?

    I just dont know what to do.

    Specs:
    CPU: AMD 1055T
    Motherboard:GA-890GPA-UD3H
    RAM:8GB Mushkin DDR3 PC3-12800 BLACKLINE 996782 (4 dimms)
    HDD: Crucial REAL SSD 300 128gig
    Onboard Video VGA
    OS: Server 2003 Enterprise
    Here is my oc:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker:
    CPU Clock Ratio: x14 @4004 Mhz
    CPU Northbridge Freq.: x9 @2574Mhz
    CPU Performance Boost: Disabled
    CPU Host Clock Control: Manual
    CPU Frequency(Mhz): 286
    PCIE Clock(MHz): 100
    PCIe Spread Spectrum: Disabled
    HT Link Width: Auto
    HT Link Frequency: x7 @2002Mhz
    Set Memory Clock: Manual
    CPU PLL Voltage Control: Normal @2.5V
    DRAM Voltage Voltage Control: 1.68V
    NB Voltage Control: Normal @1.3V
    SidePort Mem Volt Control: Normal @1.6V
    NB/PCIe/PLL Voltage Control: Normal @1.8V
    CPU NB VID Control: +0.050V @1.2V
    CPU Voltage Control: +0.075V @ 1.4V

    DRAM Configuration:
    DCTs Mode: Ganged
    Timings: 6-8-6-20
    Command Timing: 1
    Row Cycle Time: 24

    Advance BIOS Features:
    Everything is disabled except:
    CPU Core Control, all cores enabled
    Init Display First: OnChipVGA

    IGX Configuration:
    Internal Graphics Mode: UMA+SidePort
    UMA Frame Buffer Size: Auto
    Onboard VGA output connect: Auto
    VGA Core Clock Control: Auto
    SidePort Memory Clock: 1066
    CPU-z:
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    Thanks for your time.
    Last edited by brokensoldier; 06-24-2010 at 01:35 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    I can't really help with AMD issues, you will need to wait for or PM artdrivers as he is out AMD Guru here.

    Seems like you have tried a lot though, are you sure your memory is compatible with this model motherboard? Are you using the latest BIOS?

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Hey, no worries mate. Yes I have the latest bios, the F7C. I'm sure the memory runs well on AMD boards - I have read great review on its performance with AMD. I'm pretty sure it's not the RAM because this is my second set - I had Corsair in first. I should mention that in the first post.

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Well does it run well on this board though, that is what matters.

    Have you googled around for your board model and found anyone using this exact memory, or is it on the QVL?

    I was just thinking of things it could be though, sorry I can't help much with AMD but it's probably just a setting is off or something. Hopefully artdrivers will be in to help you shortly

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Typical systems built from multi-core products benefit from the additional parallelism generated by using the two DCTs in unganged mode. Single core products or products that require additional ECC correction capabilities should implement ganged mode.

    Set memory timings manually and use unganged mode.

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Thanks for the suggestion mate. I have tried it in ganged/unganged, rated memory timings and bios default timings, and combinations thereof. No joy. I tried the previous bios as well - samey same.

    One thing that I noticed is that a small fsb increase works fine, right up to the point where the ram speed is bumped up a notch. At that point bios fails on restart. Even downclocking the ram with increased fsb (and various ram timings) doesnt fix it. It seems to be linked to the ram speed itself.

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Well does it run well on this board though, that is what matters.

    Have you googled around for your board model and found anyone using this exact memory, or is it on the QVL?

    I was just thinking of things it could be though, sorry I can't help much with AMD but it's probably just a setting is off or something. Hopefully artdrivers will be in to help you shortly
    I have not checked the QVL personally, but my guy at the store said the ram/board combo is good. I'm getting reports that others with the same board, but different chip/ram are having similar problems, but only a small %age of us. Based on that I think it's the board/bios.

    In addition to the ram speed stepping that i mentioned earlier I noticed that the psu doesnt flicker at all on restart (where the oc fails) but it does on bios change/save (where the oc change works).

    Is there a way to force the board to turn off the psu for a second like when it does after bios save?
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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    DCTs Mode: Ganged
    You may want to set DCT's to Unganged. The system will perform better unganged. It is still dual channel. Just unganged instead of ganged. The Phenom II CPU has a dual channel Integrated DDR2/DDR3 Memory Controller. There is no advantage with it set to ganged. Accept when running single threaded software.
    Also when setting a high Overclock the high performance memory performs better unganged. Try it and let us know. Also I believe your Northbridge multiplier is still a little bit to high.. I would try setting the HT Link multiplier and Northbridge multiplier at 8x. If fails than 7X. It is best if they remain the same to avoid the POST mismatch. The memory multiplier looks good. I would not go any higher with that due to the AMD Phenom II's Integrated Dual channel Memory Controller. Which supports DDR2-1066/DDR3-1333Mhz. Obviously you have shown you can go over with it. I would ask myself how much before the memory controller becomes unstable?
    http://products.amd.com/en-ca/Deskto...il.aspx?id=641
    http://www.amd.com/us/products/deskt...omparison.aspx
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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    NB Vid voltage used?

    From your comments it sounds like this board/BIOS/memory combo may not be compatible is all, you might need to get a set of known compatible memory.

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    Default Re: GA-890GPA-UD3H loses bios settings on reboot, and only on reboot. Please advise.

    You should try the settings I suggested above first.
    Lsdmeasap is correct about that memory. After a little more research on my part. You are using 8GB's of memory which is engineered for LGA1156 Motherboards. That with the large overclock may be the reason for the hickups. You may want to try reduced settings or get some memory engineered for AMD.
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