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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    That's pretty odd Salty. When I enabled MT the only change in temp I saw was a 5-6C increase in the cores. My MB stays at 38C & the NB is at 48-49C and they only fluctuate a degree or two from idle to load running 5 cycles of IBT max stress. Those temps were the same with MT on & off.

    The only thing I can see that would cause what you're seeing that is your voltages are pretty high. You didn't post what yours are set at so I can only speculate.
    MB: GA-X58A-UD3R Rev. 2 BIOS FC3
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    It was just three runs of 15minutes of Prime95, the only change being HT on and HT off, and the higher Mobo and NB were the second run rather than the third. I have no explanation, its just what I observed. Just an oddity.
    Anyway, if it might help ...

    CPU = Model i7 950, Batch #3014A844, 4200mhz, 21x200.
    Motherboard = X58A-UD3R, Revision 2
    BIOS Version = FC3
    Ram = Corsair Dominator, TR3x2G1600C8D


    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [21x]
    CPU Frequency .....(Ghz).........................[4.2]
    Advanced Frequency Settings
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Disabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x17 (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[200]
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick]
    Channel Interleaving ...................[6]
    Rank Interleaving ......................[4]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...........................[8]
    tRCD .......................................[8]
    tRP ........................................[8]
    tRAS .......................................[20]

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................[27]
    tRRD .......................................[4]
    tWTR .......................................[4]
    tWR ........................................[8]
    tWTP .......................................[Auto]
    tWL ........................................[Auto]
    tRFC .......................................[60]
    tRTP .......................................[4]
    tFAW .......................................[AUTO]
    Command Rate (CMD) ................[1]

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency .........................[Auto]
    B2B CAS Delay ..............................[Auto]


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Level 2]
    CPU Vcore ..............................[1.3125]
    QPI/VTT Voltage ...... .................[1.295]
    CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.8]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ............................[1.5]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .........................[1.1]
    IOH Core 1.100v ........................[1.1]
    ICH I/O 1.500v .........................[1.5]
    ICH Core 1.1v ..........................[1.1]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ....................[1.66]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v ................[AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]

    Miscellaneous Settings
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

    To get the temperature symbol "" hold down "ALT" (Left side of space) and type "0176" (ASCI-code for the -symbol.) on the num-keypad. When you release the "ALT" the symbol will apear.





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    - XSPC RX360 - Laing DDC 18W - XSPC Bay Reservoir
    Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R Revision 2
    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
    Monitor = 22" LG Flatron W2242T 1680 x 1050 Case = Coolermaster CM690
    PSU = Corsair HX850
    OS = Windows 7 Professional x64


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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    Nothing weird about your voltages. I'd say it has to do with your 2 460's in sli and what looks like the superior air flow of your case. This should be something sheldo1 may experience too as he has 2 460's as well. wazza and I are running single ati cards.

    In looking at your case I see that you can hold 7 120mm fans. I don't know if you've installed that many but if you have 1 or 2 in the side panel pulling air in instead of pushing out that will have a huge effect on the temps. I have 4 120mm fans but 1 of them is in a lower compartment with the power supply & hdds.
    MB: GA-X58A-UD3R Rev. 2 BIOS FC3
    CPU: i7 950 W/
    Kingwin HTC XT-1264 & Scythe fan.
    RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Redline 6GB 998805
    V/C: Sapphire Vapor-X HD5870
    PSU:
    ABS Dark Beret 1000w
    Case: Atnec P180
    HDD: 1x Crucial C300 64GB & 2x WD Caviar Blue 500GB raid 0

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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    The only thing it affected was my choice of HT/on - HT/off. Certainly no big problem.





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    Cooling = EK HF Full Nickel
    - XSPC RX360 - Laing DDC 18W - XSPC Bay Reservoir
    Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R Revision 2
    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
    Monitor = 22" LG Flatron W2242T 1680 x 1050 Case = Coolermaster CM690
    PSU = Corsair HX850
    OS = Windows 7 Professional x64


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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    no option for disabledhi guys i started fiddling with numbers however the load line calibration there is no option for disabled only auto normal level 1 level 2
    also the memory multiplier is x10 not x8 and my qpi frequency was sitting around 5.6 not 7.xx, after i entered in the information wazza had posted on page 10 asides from loadline which i left at auto the comuter didnt post. so first thing load line is there a disable option for this motherboard/bios version or?
    Mobo - GA-X58A-UD3R v2 bios version FB
    Ram - Mushkin 998826 ridgeback-(3x2gb) 6gbrm 6-8-6-24 1T 1.65v Qpi-1.355v
    Cpu - i7 950 3.07mhz
    Cooling - Corsair h70
    Gpu - 2 x evga nividia gtx 460 1gb external exhaust models
    Psu - Corsair hx850
    Hdd - 1tb western digital black caviar
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    No there isn't a "disabled".
    "Standard" is what my FC3 bios has, where u say "normal".
    Standard is where mine is for now.
    I tried loading Wazza's settings in my bios and my comp froze in the first iteration of small fft's in Prime. That doesn't mean they don't work for him. It means all computers are different, even if they appear to have the same components. This is all down to "manufacturing tolerances" where two of the same product are rarely entirely identical. However I am windbagging on.

    That freeze in Prime said, "More vcore!" to me.

    What I did was change the multiplier to 19 and the bclk to 200, put the ram multiplier on 8 for 1600MHz ram, QPI/VTT at 1.3v, upped the cpu voltage to 1.2875v (You can always lower it later to find safe lowest voltage) and right now Prime is happily chugging away in the background as I write this in Mozilla, with HWMonitor (which reads a degree or two high) peaking at 66C, and CPU-Z telling me my core voltage is 1.216v even if bios is set at 1.2875v. That's a true 3.8GHz. You don't have to use your 23 multiplier. I'm thinking that if 3.8GHz is what you want this isn't a bad solution.

    But you could just raise the cpu/vcore volts for Wazza's figures, and that would probably work too. The 1650 would probably be OK for Mushkin, but I've got Corsair 1600, so I went for 8 and underclocked the ram for Wazza's template, so I'd know it wasn't ram if there was a problem.

    Prime has been going for 45 minutes now without a freeze or a bluescreen. Hottest core still max of 66C

    CPU = Model i7 950, Batch #3014A844, 3800mhz, 19x200.
    Motherboard = X58A-UD3R, Revision 2
    BIOS Version = FC3
    Ram = Corsair Dominator, TR3x2G1600C8D


    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    CPU Frequency .....(Ghz).........................[3.8]
    Advanced Frequency Settings
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Enabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]

    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x17 (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)

    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[200]
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick] Means ram timings for A are carried over to B and C
    Channel Interleaving ...................[6]
    Rank Interleaving ......................[4]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...........................[8] Whatever ram figures left of these, enter those .
    tRCD .......................................[8] (What I've left AUTO in ram leave Auto)
    tRP ........................................[8]
    tRAS .......................................[20]

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................[27]
    tRRD .......................................[4]
    tWTR .......................................[4]
    tWR ........................................[8]
    tWTP .......................................[Auto]
    tWL ........................................[Auto]
    tRFC .......................................[60]
    tRTP .......................................[4]
    tFAW .......................................[AUTO]
    Command Rate (CMD) ................[1]

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency .........................[Auto]
    B2B CAS Delay ..............................[Auto]


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Standard]
    CPU Vcore ..............................[1.2875]
    Dynamic Vcore (DVID) ................[AUTO] Blued out - not able to be changed in my bios.
    QPI/VTT Voltage ...... .................[1.3]
    CPU PLL 1.800v .........................[1.8]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ............................[1.5]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .........................[1.1]
    IOH Core 1.100v ........................[1.1]
    ICH I/O 1.500v .........................[1.5]
    ICH Core 1.1v ..........................[1.1]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ....................[1.66]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v ................[AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v .................[AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v ..............[AUTO]

    Miscellaneous Settings
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage

    That was a marathon. Just hope I made it clear enough and got it right.

    Looked up that DVID. Interesting. Will play with it.
    Dynamic Vcore is great, you have to set vcore to normal and adjust the DVID to get the same vcore you have before
    Example: Before I use 1.33125v vcore, I get 1.296v idle vcore and 1.248v load vcore in windows
    Now I set the Vcore to Normal and Adjust DVID to + 0.0625 which will give me same 1.33125v but now I get idle vcore 1.08v with my OC settings.
    Temps reduced 8c in idle.
    Normal vcore will differ from chip to chip, you have to calculate the DVID + Normal vcore your chip needs.
    P.S. Tried DVID out, primed and temp tested. Apart from being a different way to do it, made no diff to temps or cpu-z voltage readings on my board.
    Last edited by Salty; 11-08-2010 at 08:32 PM.





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    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
    Monitor = 22" LG Flatron W2242T 1680 x 1050 Case = Coolermaster CM690
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post

    P.S. Tried DVID out, primed and temp tested. Apart from being a different way to do it, made no diff to temps or cpu-z voltage readings on my board.
    it will make a difference if you set cpu voltage to normal and add extra through dvid,it should allow the cpu to throttle down at idle lowering idle temps,if sheldo was unstable then keep all settings the same an add extra voltage through dvid where its only used at cpu load,and maybe extra qpi/vtt voltage,settings are only really a rough guide youll need to tweak slightly later to be stable

    when i set cpu voltage to normal it shows voltage at 1.18750 i then add extra +0.0750v in dvid making a total of 1.2625v for 4.2ghz,you need to play around abit as every cpu will be different

    if i went straight to cpu voltage and set it to 1.2625v skipping dvid then the cpu would run at a constant 1.2625v and wouldnt throttle down at idle
    Last edited by wazza300; 11-08-2010 at 09:15 PM.
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    I did do what u said already. As I found out a half hour ago, you must have C1a and/or EIST enabled for it to work. I don't use them in my 4.2GHz OC, so it didn't make a difference for me, but yes, could make a diff for Sheldo. If I'd tested it within the 3.8 OC I might have seen the difference. Oh well.

    Hey looking at your sig, that's interesting, the way you are doing it at 4.2GHz. I'm probably a medieval overclocker. Is that just for power saving or to get the lower idle temps?
    Last edited by Salty; 11-08-2010 at 09:52 PM.





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    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
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    Default Re: GA-X58A-UD3R rev 2.0 new build having issues

    you only need eist enabled in the bios,you can disable c1e and select balanced profile in Control Panel\System and Security\Power Options,then the cpu will throttle down,high performance profile makes the cpu not throttle down

    its personal choice really,it wont have any effect on load temps but it will improve idle temps without losing stability,i just prefer clocking this way

    cpu voltage has to be set to normal,eist has to be enabled in the bios and you have to select balanced in windows power saving options for it to work

    heres my idle coretemps and voltages at 4.2ghz but auto clocked down(power saving mode) soon as any load is applied it uses full voltage and 4.2ghz speed

    im not on my ud5 atm,but the asus works the same way only they call it voltage offset



    you can do exactly the same thing in windows xp,just look for the power saving options in xp and choose minimum hardware

    EDIT: dvid lets you add +0.0000v and subtract -0.0000v extra voltage to whatever the normal voltage is for your cpu
    Last edited by wazza300; 11-08-2010 at 11:39 PM.
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