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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    With your Mushkin 2x2GB of 1066 memory, MCH Core = 1.20 - 1.24 is needed.
    If you're still having problems at stock settings, follow the recommended settings in http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...tml#post295784, post #5.

    When you flashed your bios, did you use Keep DMI data = Disabled?
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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    ProfJim,
    Still in the slow learner catagory!

    "Keep DMI data = Disabled" Where in the heck do I find that?

    I'm more than a little confused, I have Flashed the BIOS on this machine several times and never had a problem. All of a sudden with FFb I got to do all these "special" things. When I went to FE (several times now) I did all the same things and never had an issue! In fact, just to be safe I ran W7 for several days with the defalut settings in the previous post and never had a problem.

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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    When using QFlash, Keep DMI Data = Enabled is the default setting.
    When flashing your bios, it's best to set this to Disabled.
    Look at the the QFlash main screen in the http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ash-guide.html, post #1.

    **edit** Bios settings that worked in a bios version will not always work or be stable when you flash to a different bios version. Some tweaks are often needed with a newer or older bios version.
    Last edited by profJim; 10-16-2010 at 08:31 PM.
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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    I've read those instructions many times over the last week or so. If it is best to Disable "Keep DMI Data" then maybe the instructions should be updated? Do I need to start over and re-flash FFb? Do you really think that will make a difference? Help me out - why? What does "Keep DMI Data" do?

    I'll try making the other changes you suggested but I don't have much hope since it would not boot with "our" overclock settings that I have been running for 5 or 6 months and I'm pretty sure it had all that stuff setup.

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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    I must be getting too old for this stuff... I went back to the BIOS Flashing instructions and read down to Post #75 where the "Keep DMI Data = Disable" was explained. Made some sense so I'll give it a try. I wonder if the BIOS DMI Data is screwed up on this board since I have had IDE, Raid and now AHCI modes active. Or... the FFb has an issue because when I go back to FE it works ok.

    I did everything you suggested in Post 11, 12 and 13 and nothing changed. The system runs W7 with one stick of memory but as soon as I install the second stick and reboot to Windows I get the BSOD after about a minute or so. It looks like the ATI Catalyst software jumps in to initialize and that is when it blue screens. Also, with just one stick Prime95 seems to only run on CPU#1. Looks like I'm and FE person until Gigabyte acknowledges there is something amoke with FFb.
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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    Bios FFb is a recent beta bios.
    Bios FE wasn't available on two GB websites that I looked at, but it is available on several non-GB sites.

    Flashing back to the FE bios is probably best, especially if you're not having any problems with it.

    To properly complete the bios flash, your must immediately enter the bios, load optimized bios settings, and then save settings and exit. This is followed by entering the bios again to make any required bios changes.
    If you are running with a raid setup, follow the raid setting instructions in the bios flashing guide BEFORE you boot into windows.

    Before I flash to a new (or older bios), I use Qflash to save a copy of my current bios (which includes my saved bios profiles) to a floppy, usb drive, or my hard drive. Qflash can't load a saved bios file from an NTFS partition but can load the file from a FAT16 or FAT32 partition.

    I haven't had any problems when I flash to an older bios version and reload any of my stable saved bios profiles.
    It helps if you also have a saved hard copy version of your saved bios profiles.
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    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
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    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    Yeh, I thought that was a little strange since I downloaded FE on or about March 20, 2010 from the Gigabyte Web Site. Sounds like you have given up on my FFb quest.

    I sure hope someone from Gigabyte looks at this thread - I have posted the problem on Gigabyte's site but I don't have a lot of confidence in any resolution based on the responses so far. Does someone have a good number to call and get a little more attention and faster turnaround?

    I was wondering how I could save all the BIOS settings I had accummulated while OC'ing FE. Now I know what I could have done to save them - good tip - a little too late though since I did not do the QFlash Save!

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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    Try the following:
    1. power off your system
    2. turn off your psu using the rocker switch on the psu
    3. unplug the AC power cable from the psu
    4. press and hold the front panel on/off switch for 10 seconds
    5. remove one memory module from slot #3
    6. clear your cmos for 5 minutes using the procedure in the bios flashing guide
    7. power on your system with only one memory module installed
    8. enter the bios and load optimized bios settings
    9. make all the bios changes below
    10. save these settings as a bios profile using a profile name something like MyDefaults
    11. save settings and exit
    12. repeat steps 1 - 4 and then install your second memory module
    13. power on your system and pray
    If your system won't boot with these settings, reboot with these settings, but only use one memory module, then post a screen-shot using all the programs listed in the linked to post #5 .
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    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------- : [100] 
    
    Performance Enhance --------------------- : [Standard] 
    Extreme Memory Profile ---- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled]
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    Static tRead Value ------------- : [7] <-- same setting for memory channels A & B (6 should work later)
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.????? ------ : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value displayed in your bios
    CPU Termination ---------- 1.200V* ----- : [1.20] 
    CPU PLL ------------------ 1.500V* ----- : [1.50] 
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.22] 
    
    ICH I/O ------------------ 1.500V ------ : [1.50] 
    ICH Core ----------------- 1.100V ------ : [1.10] 
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.02] 
    
    Advanced Settings 
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------- : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ----------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support -------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ------------------ : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ----------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology --------------- : [Disabled] 
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect --------------- : [Disabled] <--- set to Disabled when overclocking (this must be enabled to flash or boot from a USB drive)
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    Nothing but sadness! Did exactly as you described and ended up the same or worse - after step 13 the system just hung in the boot loop. Removed one stick and was able to get Windows up and running. I made all the BIOS changes you suggested plus I Disabled "Full Screen Logo Show", changed "Init Display First" to "PEG" and changed the "ICH SATA Control" to AHCI. I also entered 1.30V for the "CPU Vcore. Attached is the screen shot you requested. I'm ready to go back to FE and live with the SSD Drive Smart Error at boot time.

    Still looking for a Gigabyte Technical Support phone number. Trying to handle a problem with them via their Web Tech Support is very frustrating. It's like they try to string it out for weeks with a bunch of dumb questions until you finally just give up.

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    Default Re: Bad install of FFb Bios - Smart Error Fix?

    For what it is worth, I let it run with 1 stick of memory and it crashed after an hour or so of doing nothing. So...

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