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    Question Find the bent pin! [solved]

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    Hello, I recently noticed my computer was not using all the available ram. It was using 4/6. First thing I did was update to the latest bios but that just made things worse. Not only did I forget to record my oc settings, but after the update it took 5-10 minutes to boot because of the constant recovering lost dram message. Since the common cause for this type of issue is bent pins I removed my cpu and looked. I saw nothing. Everything looks fine. I am linking some of the pictures I think are okay hoping one of you will see something I'm not. Sadly, I'm not that good at taking pictures.

    I'm still researching the other causes for this issue besides the pin.




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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    If everything was working fine until one day out of the blue it was missing ram and nothing was changed from when it saw all the ram I would suspect one two modules are failing. Try removing all ram try each stick 1 at a time then try adding them in one at a time. Could also be a bad slot.

    another thing to try is clear bios and loading optimized defaults and see if it sees all the memory.

    I personally did not look at every pic but the 2 i looked i couldn't see them LSD has got the eyes for it as he saw some bent in someone else post that i clearly could not see.
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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    i couldnt see any from those pics either,you need to test eack stick one by one,start with the first white ram slot from cpu socket,install just one stick and boot up pc it will boot into windows if alls well,then do the same for the other two sticks of ram,then repeat the test on the next white ram slot and so on untill you've tested all the slots and sticks

    when it doesnt boot up and might say c1 error on the mb led clock if you have one,swap out the ram for another stick and if it boots up then you have a dead ram stick but if it wont boot up with any of the sticks installed into that specific slot then you have a dead or faulty ram slot or a broken copper trace from cpu socket to the ram slot which will be imprinted in the mb,sometimes an over tightened cpu heatsink will cause this or if any excessive pressure is applied to the mb when installing ram or heatsink for cpu ect,it can damage or break the copper traces inside the mb

    another thing to try before doing all that above is to re-flash using current stable bios but makesure keep dmi pool data box is unticked and keep load optimized defaults box ticked before flashing,sometimes a hard crash can cause you to lose some ram when you re-boot
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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    I think this has been the issue since day one. I just never noticed =(

    I have already tried different combinations and the computer will not boot with any stick in the middle white slot. I found another thread on here with the same issue and for that person it turned out to be the bent pin which I believe was found by LSD.

    I'll do as you guys have suggested if no luck I will completely take apart my computer and inspect the motherboard much more carefully.

    After looking at the socket I cant even begin to fathom how I would fix a pin. It even takes a few seconds for my eyes to adjust when looking at the socket. Maybe I should also go see an optometrist. lol

    Thanks again guys!

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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    you could just have a faulty middle white ram slot,try re-flashing bios but untick keep dmi pool data and load optimized defaults it might fix it

    as for cpu pins i wouldnt attempt fixing yourself their so tiny and might break off,gigabyte will repair damaged cpu sockets in rma
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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    i just tried reflashing the bios and clearing the dmi data. I then loaded the optimize settings no change..

    I find that MITT details odd, how come it says 1 3 5 found but 1 and 4 enabled under the memory stuff?

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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    was it the newest bios you flashed with? it depends what the fault is i think,maybe it can detect it in the slot but cant read or write to it? idk,i do know that it would boot up any white ram slot so somethings wrong somewhere
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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    I'm using the one from these forums, FC1. I have a revision 2.0 board.

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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    All of those images except one are way to blurry to see the pins properly. The one that is a little bit visible only shows partial a shot of the socket.

    Can you take some more images, and this time put your camera in macro mode. I am pretty sure it would have this as those are huge images, it looks like a flower in the settings menu or on dial/switches.

    Also, do not zoom in so close, that can also make images blurry. Since your camera takes such huge images you don't need to zoom in super close.

    Does this happen also if you use the Intel stock cooler?

    What memory are you using, and are you setting your own QPI/Vtt, Uncore, Dram voltage, and memory speeds?

    If you are setting those, please give us your full settings in a template from my signature.

    If you are not setting those that could cause this as well, it can easily be caused by incorrect voltages or other settings, and if you are using auto that could use incorrect amounts.

    I don't clearly see any bent pins, but I can't really see the pins at all in all but one of those images, so not really sure if there is any or not. I do see several one side of the socket that concerns me, but it could just be the blur, can't say for sure without better images.

    Take images this time of the entire socket at once in macro mode, not zoomed in so much, and I think they will come out much better.

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    Default Re: Find the bent pin!

    Okay, I'll try taking some more pictures.

    At first I was setting my own voltages for everything to maintain an OC. I didn't notice the missing ram until I turned off the page file and ran out of memory. Sadly, I lost them when I updated the bios. Since then I have been using auto settings. I have tried some of the recommended settings found here for similar issues with no success.

    I have not tried out the stock cooler. Will do so when its light out.

    Regarding the ram, I have Corsair XMS 3x2GB 1600 with 7-8-7-20 timings

    Thanks

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