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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    Hey,

    I've tried those settings, but I'm still getting no joy.

    The majority of the time it boots with 8GB, but occasionally the "Recovering Lost DRAM Size" will reboot it and get it to 12, although its probably less than 50% of the time.

    What other things can I dig into in the BIOS?

    I've read through the page you linked with other causes of this and I've found a lot of other resources out there on the web but are there any other good places you guys would recommend for light reading on this stuff?

    I haven't put a machine together in a good number of years...I'd like to figure out how to help myself, and I'm really trying not to ask you folks to do it for me, but I'm just not sure where to start or which threads I can safely pull on with digging into these settings. I've never quite done such a high end machine so I've never really needed to get this in depth with it so any other resources that might help me learn about it and any ideas you might have are GREATLY appreciated!

    Thanks again for all your help!

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    can u just explainwhat cpu power connectors you using? one x 4 pin? leaving 4 empty power sockets or 2x4pin using all the cpu sockets?
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    Is this what you are referring to:



    I linked that earlier. I have the long 24 pin ATX power cable connected and a single ATX_12V_2X connector.

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    ahh sorry i forgot that mb has two 8pin cpu sockets,and yh you should be fine,the other connector is for extreme oc'ing,where are you at now with qpi/vtt voltage? you might need more
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    Here are my current Settings:

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [25x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Clock Ratio.............................. Auto
    QPI Link Speed .............................. 6.4Ghz
    Uncore Clock Ratio .......................... x16
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 2133 MHz
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................????


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive .............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) .......... [AUTO]
    Performance Enhance ..................... [Extreme]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............ [Quick]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP ........................................9
    tRAS .......................................20

    Below values may be left in Auto if you like, generally this is fine. For those users who DO Set advanced timings manually, please see some of my thoughts and findings about these settings and rules here
    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ 29 (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD ....................................... AUTO
    tWTR ...................................... AUTO(Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................ AUTO
    tWTP ....................................... 22 (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tWL ........................................ 8 (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1)
    tRFC ....................................... AUTO
    tRTP ....................................... AUTO
    tFAW ....................................... AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ......................... AUTO

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ......................... AUTO

    B2B CAS Delay .............................. AUTO


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [AUTO]
    CPU Vcore ............................. [AUTO]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ................ 1.335V
    CPU PLL 1.800v ........................ [AUTO]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .......................[AUTO]
    ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v .........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.640V
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    Try these settings and see how you get along

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [25x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled] << Disabled if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC Programs
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Clock Ratio.............................. Auto << Set x36 or x44 for 333 Bclk, both are fine to use
    QPI Link Speed .............................. 6.4Ghz
    Uncore Clock Ratio .......................... x16 << Set manually, use 15-22 (Higher may be more stable for you, 15 is the lowest you can use with x10 memory multi, but higher will be better all around) This is a great setting to force the board to fully shutdown/reboot when applying a setting, to force the memory to be rechecked on reboot to see if you have failed channels.
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 2133 MHz
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................????


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto]

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive .............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) .......... [AUTO] Set manually to x10 = 1333Mhz
    Performance Enhance ..................... [Extreme]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ............ [Quick] << Use Expert, then set each channels main timings and command rate one by one. This way you can see when you have a failed channel (It will be NA or - for a failed channel). When you see, change the QPI/Vtt and apply/reboot and check again until it does not fail anymore. Changing the Uncore value will cause this is be rechecked and a full reboot each time you apply, so you can always use that to force it to shut down and reboot/try again.

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP ........................................9
    tRAS .......................................20


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ 29 (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability) << Auto if you are not already using
    tRRD ....................................... AUTO
    tWTR ...................................... AUTO(Must be Write to Read Delay/Same Rank - (tWL + 4)
    tWR ........................................ AUTO
    tWTP ....................................... 22 (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4) << Auto if you are not already using
    tWL ........................................ 8 (tWL Must be CAS Latency -1) << Auto if you are not already using
    tRFC ....................................... AUTO Set at least 94 for now
    tRTP ....................................... AUTO
    tFAW ....................................... AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ......................... AUTO << Set 1T

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ......................... AUTO

    B2B CAS Delay .............................. AUTO


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [AUTO]
    CPU Vcore ............................. [AUTO]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ................ 1.335V << 1.35-1.5
    CPU PLL 1.800v ........................ [AUTO]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................[AUTO]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ........................[AUTO]
    IOH Core 1.100v .......................[AUTO] << Set 1.14-1.2
    ICH I/O 1.500v ........................[AUTO]
    ICH Core 1.1v .........................[AUTO]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.640V << Set 1.66-1.68 (More than 1.65V may be needed for 12GB, not always though, and 1.64 is actually 1.63 or less)
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    I solved this problem (I think). Had the same problem with a i7 970 with 24 GB of DDR3-1333 on a GA-X58A-UD3R. Tried all the suggestions of voltage settings, and nothing made a difference. Tried several different Bios version, same problem.

    Then I just happened to search for my processor, and found a page on Intel's site that said it only supports 800 and 1066 memory. Manually set my memory to 1066, no more problem. Never displays the "recovering lost DRAM size" message again. And runs through memtest without finding any problems.

    With the memory set at 1066, the auto-detected timings are better, so probably not a big difference in actual performance.

    I checked on the i7 980 X, and Intel's site says it only supports 1066 memory, so I'm guessing you have the same problem. See this page:
    Intel® Core

    Hope this helps.

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    thats just stock though,your cpu and mb should support from 1066 to 2000+ mhz,you do have to adjust bios settings and voltages like dram,qpi/vtt and uncore freq but it will support higher speeds

    if a lower end chip like a 920 like mine can run my ram at 1800mhz then a high end chip like yours should
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    I agree with you that it should. But it must have something to do with the 4GB DIMMs and the i7 CPU's. I do have another machine, exact same motherboard, with a 920 on it. It has 3 x 2GB 1333 DIMMs, with the memory clocked at 1666, and has no problems at all. After seeing these and a whole lot of other posts around the net where people are having the same problem, it seems all (or most) of them are with 4 GB DIMMs.

    Regardless of the reason, for anyone like me who just wants it to work and doesn't care about absolute maximum performance, setting the memory to 1066 seems to get rid of the errors and make it recognize the full 24GB. At least on mine it did.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9 Memory Issues (Recovering Lost DRAM size...)

    ahh i see, 4gb dimms maybe,could be a bios issue also,not supporting 4gb sticks fully yet idk,you would need a fair amount of qpi/vtt voltage to run 24g of ram higher than 1066mhz anyway.
    and yes 2gb dimms run fine with the 920/930/980ex i cant really say about the 4gb dimms though
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    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
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