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    Default Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    Hello, I have returned. Sheepishly. :p

    I have the X58A-UD3R rev 2, BIOS, rev FB.

    Everything is fine as long as I reboot when MEMTEST86 tells me there is no data corruption. I can keep the computer running 24/7 and reboot as much as I want.

    But sometimes, MEMTEST86 warns me of data corruption. This only happens when the computer has been turned off long enough for it to start very cool. I believe that in these cases, the AUTO voltage function in my BIOS sets settings inappropriately. Warming up my computer a bit and restarting always corrects the potential data corruption issue.

    The scariest part about booting from off state is a long beep that accompanies the Gigabyte startup logo screen. It is long and I do not know what it could mean. The software Gigabyte uses says that a long beep means a problem with overheating of the cpu. I do not know if this is the warning I am hearing. But I can confirm that this beep has nothing to do with the PC health cpu temp warning beep. Even when turned off, this long beep will sound when starting from off state.

    My intuition is that I may be able to avoid this problem if I can manually set the right set of voltages. But I don't know which ones I have to manually set before I can feel comfortable with not starting my computer using MEMTEST86 first. :p

    Ok, so here's what I have set manually.

    VCORE...1.33
    QPI/VTT...1.34
    CPU PLL...1.8
    DRAM...1.6

    The rest are still at AUTO.

    I am testing stability using:
    ICH...1.1
    IOH CORE...1.1

    So far, after 9 passes on IBT, these two settings have not crashed the system yet. However, the system is running at only ~42 GFlops instead of ~52-56. Does this mean that the BIOS had set its AUTO Vs higher than where I have set them manually now?

    After these two settings pass IBT, I will then try to manually set the V for QPI PLL.

    For ICH, IOH Core, and QPI PLL, would you fellas happen to know what the safe V limits may be?

    Are there any other Vs I should manually set? OR should these 7 Vs suffice?

    Thanks again for your help.

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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    what brand of ram n how much ram are you using? setting uncore freq yourself? ioh and ich core you shouldnt need anmore than 1.14v imo,and should only be tweaked if you have a large or dual gpu's,qpi/pll can be used to reduce qpi/vtt voltage though i find auto is fine

    tried testing with multithreading turned off for more gflops?
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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    RAM: 12GB Corsair HX3X12G1600C9 9-9-9-24

    Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 12GB &#40;6 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 &#40;PC3 12800&#41; Desktop Memory Model HX3X12G1600C9 G


    UNCORE : memory = x16 : 8.0

    I mention GFlops because my speed is slower now than the last time i tested.


    BTW, are you experiencing anything like what I am? Do you hear a long beep at boot? Which Vs did you set? Something is clearly wrong with what I did. But I can't figure out what that might be. :(

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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    no beeps i only have 6gb though not 12,has it always beeped? or just started? for 12gb what does xmp set the qpi/vtt volte too? with 12gb you will need alot

    i would try around 1.35v qpi/vtt voltage with 12gb might need more

    uncore freq can be anyhing from 16x-17x-18x whatevers most stable,i always go for the middle number so an 8x mem multi will be a 8x2+1=17x uncore freq
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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    Hey, Wazza300. I think you may have forgotten me. You already helped me get my system stable a while ago. More recently, you helped me figure out that my gpu fan was not working. :)

    VCORE is at 1.3V. QPI/VTT is at 1.34V. System is stable at 3.8GHz. Memory speeds are at 9-9-9-24 at 1600. I was getting low 40degC idle and occasional 70degC+ at full load, but only during stress testing. But I just installed a beautiful Scythe fan controller and now the system idles at mid 40degC.

    The only problem I had was that after a period of power off with psu also turned off, sometimes, the system would start with a long beep noise, which is my cue to go into BIOS, and boot up with MEMTEST86. Occassionally, MEMTEST would discover 1000s of memory errors in every test. My guess is that the problem is related to not having set enough Vs manually. I think that the BIOS is not able to properly configure AUTO Vs for my overclock settings sometimes when starting from power off.

    After testing all day, it seems, at this time, that my hunch was right. By setting both IOH CORE and ICH CORE to 1.1V, I have eliminated the long beep when booting after unplugging the psu power cord. MEMTEST also shows no more memory errors. And IBT finds no issues, although I am no longer able to test IBT with maximum memory for some reason. (Linpack.exe keeps failing. Maybe now that I have settled Windows with all kinds of processes, Linpack is unable to use as much free memory as it used to?) At any rate, I feel about 95% confident now that the issue has been resolved. I don't know which setting resolved the issue because I did not test the settings individually. But I'm satisfied and do not feel the need to manually set QPI PLL.

    Thanks for your help again. :)

    In review, I have found that manually setting VCORE, QPI/VTT, CPU PLL, DRAM, IOH CORE, and ICH CORE eliminated the long beep at boot for my particular overclock.

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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    are you running 12gb ram @ 1600 with cpu at 3.8 at 1.3vcore and 1.34 qpi/vtt and linpack is failling when using all ram? Up qpi/vtt 2 more. and rest test.
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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    No. I was not clear. IBT's max test will not initialize for some reason in the normal windows environment. But in safe mode, it works fine. I don't know why it is not working in normal mode. But the other day, I chose to revert to a previous restore point to repair Windows when there was a memory problem on boot, which is the reason I came back here for help.

    Restoring a state introduces some interesting concerns. For instance, I had just installed the AMD video card driver 10.10 before shutting down and unplugging. After repair, Windows took a while to see that it wanted to reinstall a security update it had already installed. Also, part of the system thought that my video card driver was still on 10.9. I used driver sweeper and successfully reinstalled the AMD driver. And Windows update reinstalled the security update.

    But the system as a whole seemed sluggish, too. I assume that this has to do with Windows rescanning/paging my files. And I am wondering if this has something to do with linpack on max memory being unable to run. Maybe tomorrow, if I try IBT again, it will work properly.

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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    Except for the weird boot issue, the system is completely stable. I spent two weeks of stress testing. And I have already migrated important work files into this pc. And after testing all day, I believe that my weird boot issue may be solved.

    I am happy with how well the i7 930 and the X58A-UD3R overclocks despite how poorly I managed my first i7 overclock attempt. :p

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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    for me auto setting for ioh and ich core sets it to 1.1v so i dont need to touch it,but you can adjust it if your not stable,you wouldnt need much anyway from 1.1-1.4v is usually enough
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    Default Re: Unreliable when booting from off state: X58A-UD3R rev 2

    The reason I am guessing that the problem was related to the AUTO voltage function is because when starting from off state, the motherboard used to take about 5-10 seconds in a strange state before actually booting. It's a bit quicker now. I am guessing that this state is when the BIOS tries to figure out what AUTO Vs to use. It does not seem to remember what Vs it used previously when starting from off state. Otherwise, I do not know what else could have been the cause of the occassional memory corruption issue. The system used to boot either into a completely stable state or completely unstable state. One or the other.

    I do not believe that manually setting the ICH CORE or IOH CORE was necessary; but it was sufficient to solve my problem. :/

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