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    Question x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    Hi all.
    Have searched the forums for a fix but had no luck.
    I recently built a new system with parts listed as follows:

    core i7 930 @2.8Ghz
    x58a ud3r rev2 - bios is fc3
    6gb corsair cm3x2g1600c9 1600Mhz
    500gb x 4, raid 10
    GTX 460 SLI
    OCZ 850w psu

    Im having an odd problem where the pc will never manage to boot up the first time I try to turn it on. It will make a few click noises, the monitor does not switch on and the board does not beep. It will stay in this state until I hold the power button to turn the machine off.

    When I press the power button again, if I havent used any overclocked settings, it will just boot up with bios defaults.

    If I have used overclocked settings, it will tell me that the overclock failed and default settings have been loaded and will then load up.
    I have noticed however that if I just enter bios and leave the pc on for a minute or so and then reload all the overclocked settings and restart, it will load up as normal with the overclocked settings.
    I have to leave it running for a minute or so otherwise the overclock doesnt seem to work.

    When it does load up windows 7, its perfectly stable up to 4.2Ghz ( i havent tried any higher). The intel burn test runs fine. The 6gb shows up in windows and runs at 1600Mhz.

    This same process seems to occur no matter how much I overclock or if I just use stock settings.

    The main thing I've noticed consistently is that if I leave the pc turned on for some time in the bios screen, then it will load up normally when I exit. The overclock settings do not seem to make a difference. I am not an expert in overclocking but I have read some guides so have some understanding of appropriate speeds / voltages to use. I am not extreme overclocking, I tend to keep it conservative and run at bclk 200 at 19x. Most of the other settings are on auto.

    I know that my ram is not on the compatibility list so could this cause my strange error?

    I thought that maybe it was because the ram needed to warm up (read on a forum that could be a possibility) so I took a hairdryer to it (lol!) to warm it up before turning the pc on. Made no diferrence.

    Any ideas?
    Appreciate the help!

    Any ideas what the problem could be?

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    take a look at what cpu,qpi/vtt and dram voltages are and post them here,what timings are you using?
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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    Hi
    the cpu vcore is set to auto (normal is 1.1v) (sorry, originally wrote 1.5v)
    qpi/vtt auto (normal is 1.1v)
    LLC is standard
    v dram is 1.66v
    timings are 8 8 8 20 on all 3 ram sticks
    Last edited by tanv; 10-26-2010 at 01:23 AM.

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    1.5v for cpu? are you sure?
    i would manually set qpi/vtt to 1.315v for stock clocks and anythin from 1.315-1.35v for 4.2ghz

    for cpu anything from around 1.25v to 1.35v for 4.2ghz,stock clocks cpu voltage can be set to normal setting in voltage list
    Last edited by wazza300; 10-25-2010 at 09:24 PM.
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
    Intel i7 3770k 24/7@4.8ghz 1.38v Turbo llc +0.165v dvid multithreading enabled
    Samsung Green(MV-3V4G3D/US) 8GB @2133mhz 9-10-10-21-1t 1.55v
    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
    1xSamsung 840 pro 256 Gb SSD windows 8.1 pro 64bit
    1xSamsung f4 HD204UI 2tb hard drive Storage
    Powercolor 7970 3gb V3 @1150mhz core/1700mhz mem,1.150v Accelero aftermarket air cooler 55c max
    Razer Lycosa Keyboard
    Logitech X-530 5.1 Speakers
    Lite-On iHAS124-19 24x Sata DVDRW
    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    Oops. my mistake.
    cpu vcore is 1.1v

    I have made those changes and will give it a try!

    is it the voltages that were likely causing this failure to boot first time?
    Last edited by tanv; 10-25-2010 at 09:41 PM.

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    could be,for stock cpu clocks i would set cpu voltage to normal and add extra +0.0500v in dvid,for 4.2ghz you could try normal cpu voltage and +0.0750v= around 1.26v(normal 1.1v+0.0750v) in dvid but might need to add more
    Gigabyte z77x UP4-TH F11c Modded Bios
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    Thermalright Silver Arrow Cpu Cooler
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    K-World Hybrid DVB-T 210SE Digital T.V Card
    L.G E2260V L.E.D 1920x1080 Monitor
    Xfx Pro 750w silver rated Psu 80+
    Fractal Arc Midi Case

    http://i38.tinypic.com/14myvfa.jpg x58 ud5 <=3.8ghz + 4.2ghz Overclock Template!!
    http://www.youtube.com/user/warren304#p/u Visit Me On Youtube

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    If you do indeed have a set of cm3x2g1600c9 then the timings should be set to 9-9-9-27, not 8-8-8-24. This alone could be the problem and should be tested before anything else is tried.

    It's possible that with all advanced timings on auto and the main timings set incorrectly, the BIOS choses slightly different auto values at each boot, some it chooses may be relatively stable and others not so stable.

    Also there is no way that normal VCore is 1.5V. Imax VCore for that CPU is, I believe 1.3750V. Stock (depending on the CPU) will be between 1.1V and 1.25V approx.
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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    Your situation sounds like mine. The not booting up is probably related to improper Vs. I think it may be related to the AUTO V function on this family of boards.

    Why don't you read through my problem in this link:

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...r-rev-2-a.html

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    No matter the memory timings, if you are running 1600Mhz speeds you will for sure need more than 1.1 QPI/Vtt.

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    Default Re: x58a ud3r rev 2 never boots up properly first time I try

    thanks for the advice people.
    Unfortunately setting the memory timings has not made a difference.
    As before just waiting for a minute or so in bios and restarting seems to load up with the overclocked settings as usual!
    Am utterly perplexed by this!

    I will try to get rid of all the auto settings step by step and have a read of the other thread suggested.

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