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    Default Re: X58A UD3R boot up "issue"

    Update on cold bootup issue - not fixed yet, but I have just noticed something interesting

    Could someone with an X58A-UD3R that does not do a start/stop/start bootup, please let me know if there system behaves like this:

    When I change bclk, freq or voltage settings, and then choose "save settings" and exit the bios, my computer does a "soft" start - that is the power lights and fans stay on and it boots straight up (not sure how long it has been doing this).

    My ep45-UD3 would always do a "hard reboot after I change FSB settings etc - it would shut down completely for a second then boot up.

    I am wondering if the way the PSU "talks" to the motherboard is slightly different for this particular motherboard and once it does the start/stop/start it does not need to do a hard reset if any settings in the bios are changed.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: X58A UD3R boot up "issue"

    That is completely normal, and happens any time you make certain changes in the BIOS.

    Some require soft off such as what you mentioned, some do not, and some require a full shut down/restart such as uncore or QPI changes and some QPI/Vtt amounts.

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    So I've tried using "Normal" Vcore with DVID and had the following observations. I had Uncore on x17, SPD on x8, Loadline = standard,

    CPU at 19x then my normal voltage was 1.11875 and with CPU at 21x my normal voltage was 1.16875

    I could get the system stable with DVID on 0.13125 (total = 1.2500v) with CPU at 19x and BCLK at 200 to give same 3.8Ghz but with a dynamic vcore and low idle temps at around 33

    I couldn't get the system stable with CPU at 21x I tried DVID up to 0.1125 (Total = 1.28125v) with CPU at 21x and BCLK at 200 to give 4.2Ghz.

    I think it will take some work for me to reach the lofty heights of 4.2Ghz and I think I'd like to stick it out at 3.8Ghz at the mo as I'd rather have a rock solid system for my music work and not risk it failing.

    Thanks for all the info and I'll be back when I have the time to get proper tweaking to reach 4.2Ghz.

    Big ups and thanks again,
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    what qpi/vtt voltage did you use for 4.2ghz? you might have needed a touch more,besides extra cpu voltage
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    I was using QPI/VTT=1.355v - RAM is rated at 1.65v DRAM, 1.35v QPI, 1600 Mhz 8-8-8-24.

    I'm running 200 x 8 and set the DRAM to 1.66 and QPI to 1.355 to get it stable for my 3.8Ghz OC.

    Just so I know what is a sensible limit to my Vcore and QPI voltages ? I don't want to keep pushing these voltages up and damage my machine ....
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    Default Re: X58A UD3R boot up "issue"

    1.355v for qpi is fine,anything from 1.3-1.4v is ok though you shouldnt need 1.4v for 4.2ghz imo,cpu voltage same really 1.2-1.4v is fine providing you can keep it cool/below 80c on stress testing,im guessing at around 1.3v cpu voltage you would need for 4.2ghz due to vdroop under load it would be around 1.26-1.28v,and around 1.36v for qpi/vtt

    if temps are too high though then back down on your overclock and voltages untill your happy with temps

    im at my limit really at 4.2ghz with my cooler,any higher i would have to switch to water esp when stress testing
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    Default Re: X58A UD3R boot up "issue"

    I agree, you have some room for sure as long as temps remain under control, and I think you've not been trying with enough voltages.

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    Fair enough - I agree - I think it will take some more tinkering and voltage combos to find a stable set of settings.

    I'll have another go over the weekend.

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    Default Re: X58A UD3R boot up "issue"

    Hey Guys,

    I am new here and just built (cyber monday) my new PC with very similar components as mentioned in this thread:

    i7 930
    Gigabyte X58 UD3R rev2.0 Bios FB
    Corsair Dominator 6GB RAM Tri-channel
    XFX 650W PSU
    XFX 5770 1GB Radeon GPU
    64GB Kingston SSD
    Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
    HAF 932 Full size case

    I am having the same "start/stop/restart at cold boot". It runs very stable once booted into Windows (as I have set my bios following the recommendations in this thread for my DRAM, Uncore, QPI frequencies and voltages to run @ 1600Mhz with no CPU OC yet).

    One thing I found when I went into EasyTune 6, is that under Tuner --> Frequency tabs, my CPU under "Power ON" says 0 MHz. I just wonder if this has anything to do with the start/stop/restart at cold boot, that on the initial power on, it tells the CPU to run @ 0 MHz. Do you guys with the same issue have this on your EasyTune 6 or does it have a value there?

    I also have one more question, which may be very simple to fix. When I shutdown my PC using the Windows shutdown command, once everything is off, if I press my computer case power button, I hear a sound like the speakers are turning off/on but the computer does not power up or anything. If i press the power button a 2nd time then it does the "start/stop/restart cold boot". Is there some setting that needs to change to fix this?

    Thanks all for contributing to this thread. It has been a great help for me setting things up properly as this was my first PC build.

    ~Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by est2102 View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I am new here and just built (cyber monday) my new PC with very similar components as mentioned in this thread:

    i7 930
    Gigabyte X58 UD3R rev2.0 Bios FB
    Corsair Dominator 6GB RAM Tri-channel
    XFX 650W PSU
    XFX 5770 1GB Radeon GPU
    64GB Kingston SSD
    Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
    HAF 932 Full size case

    I am having the same "start/stop/restart at cold boot". It runs very stable once booted into Windows (as I have set my bios following the recommendations in this thread for my DRAM, Uncore, QPI frequencies and voltages to run @ 1600Mhz with no CPU OC yet).

    One thing I found when I went into EasyTune 6, is that under Tuner --> Frequency tabs, my CPU under "Power ON" says 0 MHz. I just wonder if this has anything to do with the start/stop/restart at cold boot, that on the initial power on, it tells the CPU to run @ 0 MHz. Do you guys with the same issue have this on your EasyTune 6 or does it have a value there?

    I also have one more question, which may be very simple to fix. When I shutdown my PC using the Windows shutdown command, once everything is off, if I press my computer case power button, I hear a sound like the speakers are turning off/on but the computer does not power up or anything. If i press the power button a 2nd time then it does the "start/stop/restart cold boot". Is there some setting that needs to change to fix this?

    Thanks all for contributing to this thread. It has been a great help for me setting things up properly as this was my first PC build.

    ~Eric
    are you using the latest bios and latest easytune? could be normal to double boot sometimes esp when the pc is cold
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