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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Mushkins will be fine, if you still have them!

    Are you setting those subtimings manually though, or leaving it in auto? Please leave them in auto.

    OK, try these, but load optimized default first and save/apply/reboot back to the BIOS before making any changes. Once back in the BIOS set your needed SATA/Disk settings again, then move onto the rest of this.

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Auto]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Auto] << Disable for now
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Auto]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disable if you are not using Virtual Machines.
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Auto]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. [Auto] << Set X36 or X44 either is fine at 133 Bclk
    Uncore Frequency .......................... Set 2 x ram multiplier or 1-2 above that, so set 24-26
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto] << Set 100

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV] << Will be changed by Optimized Defaults
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV] << Will be changed by Optimized Defaults
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard] << Set Extreme, trust me it works better for X58 and standard is less stable
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12.0x]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick] << Expert, then set each channels main timings and command rate one by one, this way you can see if you are missing/loosing memory channels as well (Dropped channels will show up as NA or - in the timings)

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 24
    tRCD ....................................... 9
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 9


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ Auto
    tRRD ....................................... Auto
    tWTR ...................................... Auto
    tWR ........................................ Auto
    tWTP ....................................... Auto
    tWL ........................................ Auto
    tRFC ....................................... Auto
    tRTP ....................................... Auto
    tFAW ...................................... Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ................... Auto

    B2B CAS Delay .......................... [-] Auto/-/Disabled


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
    CPU Vcore ............................... [Normal]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ [1.315] << Set 1.35-1.4 for now
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... [Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... [Auto] << Set 1.2
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... [Auto] << Set 1.14
    ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... [Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ [Auto]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.660v]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Mushkins will be fine, if you still have them!

    Are you setting those subtimings manually though, or leaving it in auto? Please leave them in auto.

    OK, try these, but load optimized default first and save/apply/reboot back to the BIOS before making any changes. Once back in the BIOS set your needed SATA/Disk settings again, then move onto the rest of this.

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [23x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Auto]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Auto] << Disable for now
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Auto]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled] << Disable if you are not using Virtual Machines.
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Auto]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. [Auto] << Set X36 or X44 either is fine at 133 Bclk
    Uncore Frequency .......................... Set 2 x ram multiplier or 1-2 above that, so set 24-26
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto] << Set 100

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV] << Will be changed by Optimized Defaults
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV] << Will be changed by Optimized Defaults
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard] << Set Extreme, trust me it works better for X58 and standard is less stable
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12.0x]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Quick] << Expert, then set each channels main timings and command rate one by one, this way you can see if you are missing/loosing memory channels as well (Dropped channels will show up as NA or - in the timings)

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 24
    tRCD ....................................... 9
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 9


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ Auto
    tRRD ....................................... Auto
    tWTR ...................................... Auto
    tWR ........................................ Auto
    tWTP ....................................... Auto
    tWL ........................................ Auto
    tRFC ....................................... Auto
    tRTP ....................................... Auto
    tFAW ...................................... Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ................... Auto

    B2B CAS Delay .......................... [-] Auto/-/Disabled


    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Auto]
    CPU Vcore ............................... [Normal]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ [1.315] << Set 1.35-1.4 for now
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... [Auto]
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... [Auto] << Set 1.2
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... [Auto] << Set 1.14
    ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... [Auto]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ [Auto]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. [1.660v]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Well so far these settings have worked, but I really have no way of knowing if they have worked yet or not. It may be fixed or it may crash again tomorrow, tonight, three days from now or whenever. Lets hope for the former haha. Thank you for your help. I will be sure to post in this thread should anything fail.

    One more question I have is what would you recommend for RAM? I have decided to get a refund on the ADATA modules now that I know it is not a compatibility problem.. What are in your opinion the best modules around the ~130 dollar price point?

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Well I did give ranges, so if something fails you still may need to tweak things a bit.

    Run some stability tests in windows and see how things go, such as Prime95 for 4-8 hours tonight while you are not using the system.

    I really don't like to recommend memory as many people may see my suggestions as biased since I do memory reviews and am in direct contact with manufacturers, but did you see my comment about Mushkin in my previous reply

    Do you still have those? If not I think what you have now will be fine, I've not used them but they are in the QVL List so you should be ok with them. I mean no need to buy more memory when you've already had two sets that should be fine.

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Well I did give ranges, so if something fails you still may need to tweak things a bit.

    Run some stability tests in windows and see how things go, such as Prime95 for 4-8 hours tonight while you are not using the system.

    I really don't like to recommend memory as many people may see my suggestions as biased since I do memory reviews and am in direct contact with manufacturers, but did you see my comment about Mushkin in my previous reply

    Do you still have those? If not I think what you have now will be fine, I've not used them but they are in the QVL List so you should be ok with them. I mean no need to buy more memory when you've already had two sets that should be fine.
    Haha it is okay, I share your love of Mushkin memory. I think I am better off with memory that can run at tighter timings, especially since I plan to overclock in the future once I upgrade my graphics card.

    My computer has been running for almost an hour now without any restarts. I am feeling pretty confident that this was the fix I needed. I truly appreciate all of your help. Thank you.

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    So, do you still have the Mushkins?

    Nice to hear things are running smoothly! Would it have restarted or something by now, with your previous settings I mean?

    Thanks for your support, and no problem I'm always here to help!

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    So, do you still have the Mushkins?

    Nice to hear things are running smoothly! Would it have restarted or something by now, with your previous settings I mean?

    Thanks for your support, and no problem I'm always here to help!
    It may have, it may not have. There was a time when the computer lasted 12 hours without restarting, then the next day it would restart after 5 minutes. Other days it may not even boot. It failed very inconsistently.

    And no I previously exchanged the mushkins for the A-DATA modules. I was going to get my money refunded on the A-DATA modules anyway because I found a much cheaper price on them. I decided to just take the refund and buy a set of mushkins instead. The mushkins cost about the same so I figured I'd be better off with a higher quality kit.

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    youll have to leave it run now as much as possible just to see if it restarts or not,and i would go for the mshkins over the adata ram too
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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by Airolden View Post
    It may have, it may not have. There was a time when the computer lasted 12 hours without restarting, then the next day it would restart after 5 minutes. Other days it may not even boot. It failed very inconsistently.

    And no I previously exchanged the mushkins for the A-DATA modules. I was going to get my money refunded on the A-DATA modules anyway because I found a much cheaper price on them. I decided to just take the refund and buy a set of mushkins instead. The mushkins cost about the same so I figured I'd be better off with a higher quality kit.
    Ahh ok, well let us know how things work over the next few days. And if you get any BSOD's, note the number given to you on the BSOD itself, or in the dialog box that comes up after you restart.

    BSOD Error codes and what they mean:
    0X00000050 << Incorrect Memory Timing/Freq or Uncore Multi
    0X00000124 << Incorrect QPI/Vtt Voltage (To Much/Not Enough)
    0X00000101 << Not enough Vcore Voltage
    0X00000109 << Not enough or too Much memory voltage

    I've heard some good things about a few sets os A-Data's, but not sure which they were. I'd say your final decision was a good one :)

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    Default Re: A Complicated Problem...

    After a full day there still has not been a single restart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airolden View Post
    After a full day there still has not been a single restart!
    i think youve cracked it by adding more qpi/vtt voltage,auto isnt very reliable,let it run longer though just to be sure
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