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    Default Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    Hi,

    I recently purchased a new Gigabyte X58A-UD5, 6GB of Corsair CMP6GX3M3A1600C8 RAM, an i7 x980, a OCZ Vertex2 and a Radeon 5600 to replace the guts of my old Intel P4 system for the audio work I do.

    The system came together and W7-32 went in nicely recognizing all hardware. However my legacy Edirol M-16DX USB sound card now shows frequent, short audio drop outs whenever I display bitmap images, or video.

    I've tried tweaking the BIOS turning USB 1, 2, & 3 on and off and have futzed around with overclocking and any other settings I can think without luck. I've also tried adding a PCI USB 2 expansion card in without love.

    The problem is not related to ASIO latency as I have messed around with that (including setting buffers ridiculously large). Besides why spend all of this money if I'm going to get worse latentcy than my old P4?

    I recently posted this message to the forums at Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews and jaquith was kind enough to suggest a few basic troubleshooting steps including removing all other USB devices and testing the system with a minimal number of services (MSCONFIG diagnostic boot mode).The same problem occurred. He then recommended that I try this forum.

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Regards,

    Scott

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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    tried turning off c1e in advanced cpu features in the bios? if that doesnt stop it try turning off eist aswell in the menu page

    close easytune software if you have it installed,and uninstall des(dynamic energy saver) software if you have that installed
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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    Can you please let us know what BIOS you are now using, and if you have the above mentioned software installed or not (Easytune & DES)?

    You mentioned latency but I'm not familiar with the term you used with it, did you mean you ran DPC latency checker, and do not have any issues with it?

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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    Thanks for your quick response.

    In answer to wazza300, I tried turning off c1e, and c1e and eist without luck. Drop-outs recur after about 10 seconds of starting a slide show, or playing video. I also un-installed DES and confirmed that Easytune wasn't running (via services & task manager). Problem still occurs. Should I turn c1e and eist back on?

    In answer to Lsdmeasap, my BIOS is Award version FA.

    The latency I was referring to is a DAW term that describes the responsiveness of an audio card (measured in milliseconds) as determined by buffer settings in the ASIO driver. The smaller the buffer, the more responsive the audio however the greater the load placed on the CPU and system. Setting buffers too small can lead to audio drop-outs and break-up on slower PCs. My thinking is that even the smallest buffer settings (and lowest latency) shouldn't be a concern on a system with a processor as fast as the x980. I mentioned latency only to short-circuit suggestions to adjust ASIO buffers.

    I'm not familiar with DPC latency. I'd be happy to look into this, if you suggest.

    Any other suggestions will also be welcome.

    Regards,

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    yes turn back on eist and c1e if it has no effect,what brand of psu are you using? and what gpu as this will have an affect too

    have you tested with onboard sound? just to eliminate possible soundcard drivers thats causing it
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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    I'd suggest you update to the latest BIOS for sure before any further troubleshooting.

    Here is the latest FC5
    http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList...d5_2.x_fc5.exe

    And here is a guide on how to use Qflash, please use Qflash NOT @BIOS.
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ash-guide.html

    Be SURE to read the guide, especially if you are using RAID so you do not mess up your array.

    And on latency, I assume that is probably a program like I mentioned, just asked to be sure.

    Here is the DPC latency checker I was talking about
    DPC Latency Checker

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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    Sorry for taking a while to get back to you all.

    I can report only poor results.

    I've updated the BIOS as Lsdmeasap suggested and while at first it seemed to resolve the problem, when I retested the system an hour later, the drop outs had returned.

    Also as you suggested I ran DPC Latency Checker. It ran smoothly for about a minute during my slide show + mp3 test and then started coughing up a "A driver is behave badly" message. Then the system restarted!

    DPC recommended that I disable drivers selectively however I'm running such a minimal config already, I'm not really sure where to start.

    I ran this sound card and its current W7 driver without any issues on my P4 so I don't suspect either is the issue her.

    Suggestions for next steps would be appreciated.

    regards,

    Scott

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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    what psu are you using??



    with easytune disabled



    with easytune enabled,i also turn off c1e in the bios,could be psu related though or some other driver

    your pentium 4 wouldnt have had the power saving modes that this chip has,and thats the main cause of it
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    Default Re: Edirol M-16DX drop outs with GA-X58A-UD5

    My PSU is an Antec Earthwatts EA-650.

    I've completely uninstalled EasyTune (just to be sure). As you suggested, I have tried with c1e disabled (though it isn't at the moment) but that didn't fix the problem either.

    Here's waht I see

    [IMG]file:///C:/Users/slepore/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]Attachment 3013

    What's interesting is that everything works well for about 45 seconds, then I hear a fan pick up speed (not sure which one. there are 3 in my system), then the drops outs start.

    Regards,

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    try to isolate which fan it is,could it be the gpu fan? maybe a simple change of fan would fix it? if its a case fan try unplugging them one at a time and retest,cpu fans you would have to swap with another as it will get hot quick without one and may cause damage,dont rule out psu fans either
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