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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    Next : The full BIOS screen properly adjusted for the BIG jump to 400-1600 ( FSB settings mostly )





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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    Next : If you love more the CPU-Z ( this is what you will get )


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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    Next : If you love more the ClockGEN ( this is what you will get )

    If you have the EP35C-DS3R that's your PLL handler chip




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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    I bet that @Kick will be itching to ask .... Ok this crazy Greek , he found the way... how far did he pushed the damn board ??


    Well I did just 3.2G - 400- 1600 stays good there , but I got down to 2.4G ,
    so to have some room , to explore above the 1600 Mark ;-)


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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    At the page 3-4 I posted this bandwidth comparison , its important as results,
    because all the numbers are taken at stock CPU speed .
    And so, only the memory does the deference .
    I am updating the results with the last 1600 MHz results .


    DDRII - 533 4-5-4-12 & DDR3 1066 6-6-6-10 DDR3 1600 9-8-8-24



    DDRII 533 ......DDR3 1066.....DDR3 1600

    Everest ..
    Read:.... 5164 ... 7350......8110
    Write:.... 4817... 4796.......6330
    Copy:.....4420 ... 5452......7125
    Mem ns:.. 97.8.... 65,1.......66,1
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    Last round and epilogue ..

    I did try to move upper than the 400/1600 , but it was not possible not even an single MHz of FSB.

    I flashed back to the F4 bios just to see, if there was any change about the voltage on the chip-set.
    No, I did not see any difference or change.

    And so I when back to the BLUEBoard :-)

    In order to boot at 400 / 1600 the memory ,
    did not do it at 8-8-8-20 Kingston latency.
    It was properly set, volts and all, but the motherboard could not handle the pressure !


    I used this phenomenon as diagnostic tool , and started to lower the FSB until the motherboard to accept the 8-8-8-20 .
    This would be a sign, that the chipset has the proper voltage to handle the stress.

    By dropping from 400 399 398 to 393 , I manage to boot , but noticed poor scores on Everest , and started to test again .
    Not all FSB selections act equal, ( In some of them the speedfan software was hanging to start ) and so I started to dropping lower the FSB, tried 390 389 388 387, at 386 FSB , the system booted nicely and smooth .

    The tested the bandwidth and I got amazing numbers.

    393 VS 386 FSB
    Read : 8407 / 8760
    Write : 7065 / 6894
    Copy : 7605 / 7618
    Ns : 62 / 58,5


    Well that’s it, this is what this motherboard can do,
    when it is loaded with high quality DDR3 .

    I bet that If I had DDR3 CAS 7 at 1600, I would had to lower the FSB even more, so to match it with this motherboard.



    The system works nicely at 386 FSB 1544 MHz 2.7G CPU,
    I think that I found the best combination for 24/24 365.

    My next move would be to run all the known stability tests,
    and eventually those will determine , if I am 100% good or just 99% .

    I like to thanks again, every one who helped my education and exploration,
    On this journey.


    The EP35C-DS3R secrets, had be discovered !!

    Cheers to all .

    ( I am preparing to post my last Gigabyte template, if some one needs it )
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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    CPU = Model Q6600
    Motherboard = EP35C-DS3R
    BIOS Version = F4
    Ram = HYPER-X KHX1600C8D3T1K2 /4GX http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/K...D3T1K2_4GX.pdf


    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [7]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [386]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [4.0#]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Extreme]

    CAS Latency Time_______________[8]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay________[8]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay______[8]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)_________[24]

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________[Auto]
    Rank Write to READ Delay________[Auto]
    Write to Precharge Delay________[Auto]
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________[Auto]
    Read to Precharge Delay_________[Auto]
    Static tRead Value______________ [Auto]
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_______ [Auto]


    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 /3 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.2V] =1.66v
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [ 0 ]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.3V]
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.3V]
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.30]

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    :)
    Heres something i came across,its a bit old tho.
    might be something of intrest in it.
    Tom's Ultimate RAM Speed Tests : Is Fast Memory Really Worth It?
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Yes found the link and on the other thread , I think that I have to teach him how to do 400/1600

    He maybe change his mind ...



    Well I did not lost my time , the last two days, I clocked back to default ,
    and stated testing again the EIST (Power Saver) , and even I crossed the forbidden Gigabyte notice , and installed the Easy Tune 6 ....
    The software works fine as diagnostic , did not tried to overclock, I had become expert on manual mode ..

    Even so I must admit that worth's Gold .... I found with it memory tables, that I did not know that there was there.

    ( if some one is not familiar with electronics skip the rest message )

    I found an great PWM signal software controller , for the CPU fan header , and works nicely with the EP35C-DS3R .

    I got an nice PWM to DC converter from Nanoxia , and tested all those CPU fan settings with it , and an alternative CPU fast fan that I have.
    ( converts 4 pin signal for operation with 3 pin fans)

    About the EP35C-DS3R and the PWM output levels, at the CPU header , it has five speeds , five steps of fan speed ..

    The tested fan has specs 120mm 2400RPM 600mA at 12V DC
    With the Nanoxia PWMX controller at 100% PWM got 2150 RPM ,
    tested it for just 20 seconds at Max RPM , I Know that is a big load for the CPU header, and the PWM controller , and so I did not damage anything ... (Lower RPM than 1800 its safe = less electrical current )

    It will be nice to know if some haves the info , what is the max output in mA for every fan header ( including the CPU one ) ?
    On my test, the fan must to have draw about 550mA at list ( with out damage ).

    I am starting to love the Ultra durable thingy

    Picture .. and more other stuff to come ..




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    Last edited by Kiriakos; 12-07-2010 at 08:02 AM.
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    Default Re: GA-EP35C-DS3R & (2x2gb) pc12800 DDR3 1600Mhz

    ET6


    Last edited by Kiriakos; 12-07-2010 at 08:03 AM.
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