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    Hi,

    On one PC that worked for some time (more or less normally) I did memtest86 and always get error on Test 3.
    RAM replaced, and still getting error.
    So, it's more CPU or motherboard.

    Then I tried to apply some values in hope that it might be BIOS setting:
    Acto to Act delay 3
    Rank write to read delay: 8
    write to precharge demay: 5
    refresh to act delay: 52
    read to precharge delay: 3
    static tread value: 6
    FSB overvoltage control: +0.1
    (G)MCH overvoltage control: +0.1

    Matherboard is EP35-DS3P, CPU Intel 6600 Quad 2.4.


    Do you have some idea if that could come from config ?
    If not, how to find out if it's fault of motherboard or CPU ?

    Thank you and regards,
    Igor

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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    Are you using Memtest v3.x or the latest version of Memtest86+?

    We can best help you if you will post your bios settings using the P35 Bios template.
    Adding a detailed list of your hardware setup to your forum signature will provide additional need information.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    Hi,

    I used memtest86 on Ubuntu distributions 9.10 and 10.10 (memtest 2.11 and 4.1).

    Bios settings are here:

    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [6]
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[??]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [333]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [AUTO]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [AUTO]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time________________ AUTO
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ AUTO
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______AUTO
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ AUTO

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 3
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 8
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 5
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 52
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3
    Static tRead Value_______________ 6
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 6

    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [NORMAL]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V]
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+.200]
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [NORMAL]

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [??]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [??]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [??]
    Virtualization Technology................: Enabled

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________ENABLED


    ?? ==> corresponds to labels that I was not abled to find in BIOS menus.


    Let me know if I need to provide some other details.


    Thank you and regards,
    Igor

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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    Please add the requested detailed hardware list to your forum signature.
    Be sure to include motherboard revision # (lower left rear corner of the mobo), bios version #, links to your memory specifications, etc.
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [AUTO] <-- set this to 100
    Your FSB and (G)MCH overvoltages differ in the bios settings versus the first post.
    Are you under-clocking your cpu with 6 x 333 = ~ 2.0GHz?
    Are you running VM applications?
    How long has your system been running "more or less normally"?
    Have you made any recent hardware changes to your system, other than testing with a second set of memory?
    Are there any other specific problems, other than the Memtest86+ #3 test errors?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    Hi,

    Thank you for repy.

    >> Are you under-clocking your cpu with 6 x 333 = ~ 2.0GHz?
    >> Your FSB and (G)MCH overvoltages differ in the bios settings versus the first post.
    I changed some values to see if it change something.

    >> Be sure to include motherboard revision # (lower left rear corner of the mobo), bios version #, links to >> your memory specifications, etc.
    How to find bios version and memory specifications ?

    >>Are you running VM applications?
    VirtualBox. Not sure that I need this BIOS option though.

    >> How long has your system been running "more or less normally"?
    2+ years

    >> Have you made any recent hardware changes to your system, other than testing with a second set of memory?
    No

    >> Are there any other specific problems, other than the Memtest86+ #3 test errors?
    Random computer "freeze".

    Will check to see MB revision...

    Thank you and regards,
    Igor

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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    For the bios version, at the main bios screen, press F9 and it will list the bios version/date and other system information.
    Look at the stickers on the memory modules, they will have the brand and model # for the memory. Post this information, we can check the manufacturer's website for the memory specifications.
    Cpu-z and other programs will display detailed memory information in windows, I don't know which programs will do this when running Ubuntu.

    To list your system components in your signature.
    --> User CP tab (upper left corner of web page)
    --> select Edit Signature
    --> enter your hardware components (brand, model, etc.)
    --> include your bios version
    --> preview
    --> Save when complete
    Be sure to include your bios version, motherboard version, power supply, cpu heatsink/fan setup and the model numbers of all components.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    Hi,

    It seems that there is a problem with forum posting - my last message is not there...

    Anyway, I added more info in signature. Let me know if you still need more info.

    Thank you and regards,
    Igor
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    BIOS / Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP35-DS3P Energy saver S775 (UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-001D7D0075BD)
    Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
    12/11/2007-P35-ICH9-6A89OG0QC-00

    North bridge Device ID=0x29c0 Vendor ID=0x8086 South bridge Device ID=0x2916 Vendor ID=0x8086

    Intel 6600 Quad 2.4 GHz FSB 1066 Box 65nm
    Antec SonataS 500W
    Memory 4 x G.SKILL DDRII1GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12 1.8V-2.0V
    Graphic Card ASUS GeForce 8800 GT 512M pci-express 2.0
    Monitor Samsung 22" 226BW 2ms
    Disk Samsung 320G Sata II 16M 7200T
    Disk WD 500G Sata II
    Noctua hotsink NH-U12P heatsink and ventilator 120mm

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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    GIGABYTE - Motherboard - Socket 775 - GA-EP35-DS3P (rev. 2.1) shows that there is only one version of your EP35-DS3P, version 2.1
    Page 3 in your mobo user manual shows the location of the motherboard revision number.

    It looks like you are using the original F1 bios 2007/12/11.
    The most recent bios version is F6 from 2009/06/18.

    Many system problems are related to running with an older bios version and part of the solution is to upgrade the motherboard bios by flashing the bios to the most recent version. If a bios flash isn't done correctly, a motherboard can easily be permanently ruined ("bricked"). For this reason, let's see if we can fix the memory problems using your current bios.

    G.SKILL-SEARCH lists several models of 6400 CL4 memory, but your memory might be an older model that is EOL (End Of Life), i.e. discontinued. Your memory model number is probably similar to F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK.

    Saving and loading bios profiles.
    From page 38 in your motherboard user manual:
    The Functions of the < F11 > and < F12 > keys (For the Main Menu Only)
    F11 : Save CMOS to BIOS
    This function allows you to save the current BIOS settings to a profile. You can create up to 8 profiles (Profile 1-8) and name each profile. First enter the profile name (to erase the default profile
    name, use the SPACE key) and then press <Enter> to complete.
    F12 : Load CMOS from BIOS
    If your system becomes unstable and you have loaded the BIOS default settings, you can use this
    function to load the BIOS settings from a profile created before, without the hassles of reconfiguring
    the BIOS settings. First select the profile you wish to load, then press <Enter> to complete.
    Before you make any bios changes, save your current bios settings by using an empty profile slot and name this something like Memtest3Error.

    Save a hard copy of all your current bios settings from all the bios screens so that you can manually duplicate some of the current settings after you have loaded optimized bios defaults.

    After saving your current settings to a profile:
    1. Load Optimized bios defaults by pressing F10
    2. Press the CTRL and F1 keys at the same time, this will give you access to all "hidden" bios options.
    3. Make any needed changes in the following bios sections to match your previous settings:
    3a. Advanced Bios Features
    -- Full Screen LOGO Show___ [Enabled] <-- set to disabled to show post information
    -- Init Display First______ [PCI] <-- set to PEG (slot #1) or PEG2 (slot #2) for your graphics card.
    3b. Integrated Peripherals
    3c. Power Management Setup (note: HPET Support should probably be disabled unless you're dual booting with Vista or Win7)
    4. PC Health Status

    At this point, you should save these partially optimized settings as a second saved profile with a meaningful name such as PartialOPT.

    5. Most of the following settings are in the M.I.T. section of the bios:
    Code:
    Motherboard: EP35-DS3P  Rev#: 2.1 Bios Version: Fi
    Cpu: Q6600 Core2Quad (B0 or G3 stepping)
    Cpu Cooling: Noctua NH-U12P + 120mm fan
    Ram: G.Skill PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12 1.8V-2.0V (4x1GB) F2-6400CL4?-?GB??
    Power Supply Unit: Antec SonataS 500W
    
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [6] <-- set to 9 (stock setting)
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[??] <-- ignore
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [333] <-- set to 266 (stock setting)
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [AUTO] <-- set to 100
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [AUTO] <-- set to 3.00 for 800MHz memory speed
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
    
    Performance Enhance = [Standard] <-- leave this set to Standard
    
    CAS Latency Time________________ AUTO <-- set to 4
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ AUTO <-- set to 4
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______ AUTO <-- set to 4
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ AUTO <-- set to 12
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 3 <-- set to AUTO
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 8 <-- set to AUTO
    Write to Precharge Delay________ 5 <-- set to AUTO
    Refresh to ACT Delay____________ 52 <-- set to AUTO
    Read to Precharge Delay_________ 3 <-- set to AUTO
    Static tRead Value______________ 6 <-- set to 6
    Static tRead Phase Adjust_______ 6 <-- set to AUTO
    
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV] <-- do not modify, optimized settings will set it correctly
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal] <-- leave at default setting
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal] <-- leave at default setting
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.200V] <-- this runs your memory at 2.00 volts
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [NORMAL] <-- OK
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.2V] <-- set to +0.1
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.20] <-- set to +0.1
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [NORMAL] <-- OK
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [??]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [??]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [??]
    Virtualization Technology................: Enabled <-- set to disabled for now
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________ENABLED <-- set to disabled for now
    Let us know if you have any boot-loop problems and more detailed information with Memtest86+ errors.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Hi,

    You are correct about RAM serie. As I said, I bought some new RAM and got exactly same error (on same RAM address).

    After changes, still I get the error.
    (But error count == 1, before it was >1)

    Error is always on same address (except if I change RAM memory like having just 2 GB, than still same error but on another address) and with same test #3, pattern inversion, and 80808080 ends as 80808081. Same RAM address, same pattern, same bit.

    In BIOS change is that there were 2 warnings. One was about graphic card, something like "your card is not garanteed to work correctly), and another one about CPU and voltage, don't remember exact message though...

    Let me know if you have any more ideas ?

    In any case, thank you for your support.

    Regards,
    Igor
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    BIOS / Motherboard
    Gigabyte EP35-DS3P Energy saver S775 (UUID: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-001D7D0075BD)
    Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
    12/11/2007-P35-ICH9-6A89OG0QC-00

    North bridge Device ID=0x29c0 Vendor ID=0x8086 South bridge Device ID=0x2916 Vendor ID=0x8086

    Intel 6600 Quad 2.4 GHz FSB 1066 Box 65nm
    Antec SonataS 500W
    Memory 4 x G.SKILL DDRII1GB PC2-6400 CL4-4-4-12 1.8V-2.0V
    Graphic Card ASUS GeForce 8800 GT 512M pci-express 2.0
    Monitor Samsung 22" 226BW 2ms
    Disk Samsung 320G Sata II 16M 7200T
    Disk WD 500G Sata II
    Noctua hotsink NH-U12P heatsink and ventilator 120mm

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    Default Re: Memory problem detected in memtest86

    You get the error with either of the modules or just one of hem?
    Try different slot.

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