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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    Ya I've basically used it to rule out Prime95/Orthos in my testing, so I guess I use this instead of Prime in a way.

    Haha, I stick to 10x LinX myself due to being part of said organization :)

    errors after 12 hours can often be heat related too so it's very hard to tell what's what, so when testing for long periods like that you can never be sure what's going on.

    I tend to keep it shorter nowadays, no time for 24 hour tests! I do know what you mean about D-an-W, I've had one error on me after 24 hours too, right when I decided I'd let it got for 48 hours :(

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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    profJim,

    glad to hear you have found a new tool for the toolbox! So, I was a little concerned about my MCH temperatures, and since i didnt have an intake fan on my antec 300, i bought this today to place on the side of case shooting right towards the vid card and NB:

    Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE AP121 120mm Case Fan

    hopefully I will have it early next week and plan to recommence testing then. I also want to remove the blue aluminum cover on the MCH--pm'd LSD about it--but I am a little nervous on the process, so i might have to take out the MB and do it over the weekend i guess.

    Finally, getting back to the testing process. Are you recommending running the Memtest+(1 full loop and 8-10 Test #5) and Prime95(3 hour blend/3hour Large FFT) for each increment in memory speed? That will take quite a bit of time and I wanted to know if there was any way I could speed up that process somewhat if possible.
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    Yep, stress testing is a PITA and takes a lot of time.
    Cutting corners might come back to haunt you, especially if you don't have an image backup of your boot partition. If your boot partition gets corrupted while stress testing, how long will it take you to reinstall all your software? Do you have all your documents, photos, music and other files in a different disk partition? Do you have recent backups of these files.

    I've only had a boot partition problem one time, but my partition image backup meant that I was up and running again within minutes.

    Memtest86+ takes about 20 minutes to complete one full pass on my system with 4GB of memory. 8GB would take about twice as long, but your cpu with more L2 cache will probably reduce the time a bit. As I recall, test #5 takes about 25 minutes to run 8 tests.

    FWIW, test #5 is my nemesis. In most cases, my overclock attempts pass the other Memtest86+ tests, and I've seen a fair number of posts where test #5 generated errors for others. When test #5 had errors, it was always (in my case) within 0 - 5 loops, that is, on or before the 6th loop had completed. YMMV

    To save time, I can see skipping the full Memtest86+ test loop for now. It's your call if you want to skip the #5 loop test too.

    Based on Lsdme's HCI Memtest recommendation, it looks like running HCI in windows will be quicker test and equally thorough test, as long as you set it up to test as much available memory as possible and let it run long enough to fully test your memory. Don't forget that you can run an overnight extended test for HCI or Prime95.

    I think your Antec 300 case is similar to my Antec 200 (backup system) case. I'm amazed at how well my 200 case cools my system. I'm using Scythe S-Flex (64 cfm/1600rpm) fans running at 1300 rpm. My fans are not high pressure/low(er) cfm like your new fan. I think that your best bet will be to install your new Silverstone fan in the front intake position and use a "regular" fan for the side intake.

    If you don't have any intake fans installed, you can remove your case side cover and use a desk fan to blow air directly into your case for added cooling.
    What are your system, cpu and core temps while running Prime95? Most decently cooled systems have core temperatures in the low 50 degree (C) range. Post a screen-shot of your temperatures during your next test.
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    mch
    I use two direct read temp sensors for mch.the mch doesnt like its temps in excess of 45C at hi overclock.
    In practice that means keeping mch voltage at or below 1.4v.
    You can get a good overclock with 1.24v mch,how much u want to push it is up to you.

    My board doesnt have the "blue hats" never did.
    If you want to apply some stress/hi voltage to it add a direct fan or an angled 120mm fan for mch and memory
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    kick,

    thanks for the tips on the MCH. After I remove the "hat", i'll hot glue a small fan on it, i have so much old overclocking stuff going back to the celeron 300 days, so i'm sure i can find something that works.

    profJim,
    I will mess around with HCI memtest over the weekend to see how it runs while i work on modding my case and mobo a bit. I should have at least one decent Scythe/Pabst 120mm fan that i can use for a side fan if I put the Silverstone Air Penetrator fan on the front of the case.

    btw, this machine is purely for gaming, no relevant data is on it, but a drive corruption would still be a large pain. I need to see about buying a decent docking station from newegg as i have multiple old Sata HDDs that I could use to back up the partition. Most of the docking stations I have seen have one problem or the other--and are not generally made that well. Also, i originally had my BIOS setting [SATA RAID/AHCI MODE] as Disabled instead of AHCI or Raid, so I have been unable to hook up an external Sata drive except through the usb2 or firewire ports versus an external SATA port.
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    heh celeron 300 did anyone actually run them at that speed ? they just clocked like crazy.
    Are you really going for Sandybridge or will it be Patsburg(super sandy!) with PCI-E 3.0 and DDR4 memory in Q4 of 2011.
    Wholly jebus, its debateable whether you even need 1366 and 1156 as it is and like weed be in real trouble without dx11.
    Still, chip manufacturers have to have some outlet for rnd but unless the real "games" need software comes along a bit faster what will they do for "enthusiast buyers"
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    hrbngr, I have no problem OCing my EP45-UD3P 1.6/E8600 to 4.27 (FSB 450). I can run MCH @ 1.10v, 1.26v, or 1.28v 24/7 stable. Here's a LinX test I ran last night with MCH @ 1.10v.

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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    I have a Rosewill e-sata single external (self-powered) enclosure for for my off-line backups and partition images.
    Cost was about $25 with free shipping and discount. Newegg offers many options.

    Enabling AHCI after you have installed your operating system has been covered in many forum threads.
    Use the forum ADVANCED SEARCH feature using "enable AHCI" (without the quotes) to find more information.
    ep45-ud3p and ahci is one thread that should help.
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    Forgot to add:
    Check out page 6, Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P - P45 at its Finest, to see what AnandTech did with an EP45-UD3P and E8600/Q9550.

    The EP45-UD3P and R versions come with a rear panel e-sata bracket.
    Check page 19 or 20 in your mobo user manual.
    Attached Images Attached Images 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!-ep45-ud3p-esata-bracket-jpg 
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    Default Re: 1st time poster would like to overclock my E8600 while waiting for Sandybridge!!!

    profJim,

    thanks for the link! I have been offline for the last several days--and still am at home due to my vz fios being down. I did set up the bracket just like you recommended and am printing out this post so i can continue testing at home even if my internet is still down tonite.

    I finally received my new fan and brackets so I hope to set those up at well. I should have some good test results soon.
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