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    You're totally missing the point. Sure, go ahead and use DVID when you have found your OC and it's stable. Using it right away is simply bad practice. If you over clock with EIST/C1E and using DVID then if you get crashed/BSOD's what do you blame, the OC or the power saving features.

    Using DVID is a matter of choice, yes, using it straight off can create problems. I'm not saying it definitely WILL create problems, but why potentially make things more difficult. Just because you've had no issue, doesn't mean that others reading this won't if they go ahead and try.


    The reason I bought it up is because DVID and EIST/C1E aren't flawless. Beleive it or not, they have been known to create issues caused entirely by them, regardless of voltages. Eg a CPU stable at manually lowered clocks and 1.0V might BSOD if EIST and C1E are used to drop the frequency and voltage to the same levels. In that case it's nbot the voltages that are wrong, it's EIST and the advanced halt states causing the issue.

    1.3V is fine, so is 1.326V. Intel certainly isn't involved in any conspiracy with heatsink manufacturers. They set whet their tests tell them to set. Even at 1.4V at stock the CPU is well within its TDP. Intel will actually refuse to honor your warranty if you admit to using anything other than the stock cooler, so they can't be that good of friends with after market HSF makers.

    To be honest, if you're over clocking, VID is pretty much out of the window any way. It's always best to use the lowest voltages possible, of course it is. However it really is not worth worrying about a slightly higher VID than normal. Now if the VID were closer to 1.4V I'd be asking myself "what kind of bottom of the bin CPU did I have the misfortune to get?".

    My concern wasn't soley about DVID. I was assuming that you also had EIST and C1E enabled at the same time. If that's not the case then there is much less cause for concern. It's not just an internet myth about C1E and EIST, it r=truely can in some cases cause issues related to the mechanism itself. That's why I feel it's VITAL that OC advice is offered consistantly. Disabling power saving first, then getting a dacent OC, then enabling power features and doing a breif re-test is a 100% sure fire way to eliminate problems. The rate at which C1E and EIST cause issues maybe low, but OCing is about reducing risk and methodically adjusting settings. Power saving (apart from the built in thermal cut out) should be disabled initially and then activated afterwards. I've built quite a few pre OC'd PC's, mainly gaming rigs and it's probably more essential for me to do it this way because customers may not know how to react if something does hiccup, but the principle is universal.

    I understand that you've had some success and you're now running at 3.3GHz. Be sre to give it a good LinX and Prime bashing. Also as you're using EIST and C1E I'd be tempted to give some extended idle testing too. leaving the machine on for 12 hours/over night should confirm no random EIST/C1E related BSOD's. Other tests such as transient loading will be performed by you as you use the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    ntel will actually refuse to honor your warranty if you admit to using anything other than the stock cooler, so they can't be that good of friends with after market HSF makers.
    Is that a fact?
    After all they are selling tray CPUs, and the TDP specs and the procedure for measuring Tcase was made to help making third parties thermal solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    You're totally missing the point. Sure, go ahead and use DVID when you have found your OC and it's stable. Using it right away is simply bad practice. If you over clock with EIST/C1E and using DVID then if you get crashed/BSOD's what do you blame, the OC or the power saving features.
    First of all we are talking about me and me only. No one should copy my settings, i guess people logging in here already know that. Now about the c1e and eist, i dont see the point of disabling them. Windows 7 do the same thing with Balanced Power plan. So what are you suggesting? Tell me and i will try it as i did with wazza suggested. Disable all the power savings (cpu and win 7) find the lowest Vcore and then enable them? And when i do find the lowest VCore am i not to use the DVID? Run a constant volt to the CPU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    Beleive it or not, they have been known to create issues caused entirely by them, regardless of voltages.
    SS or never happened.

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    If you want evidence then you are welcome to search for it. The burdon of proof is by no means on me. Simply searching will find you plenty of people that have had issues with EIST and C1E. If it's such an innocuous and flawless function then why do some users report coil whine when C1E is enabled. Surely if it's just as good as using a manually lower voltage then they should get coil whine with it off too?

    Windows power schemes can not adjust CPU speeds unless EIST is enabled. If EIST is off, you can set what you like in Windows and it won't make a difference.

    Is that a fact?
    After all they are selling tray CPUs, and the TDP specs and the procedure for measuring Tcase was made to help making third parties thermal solutions After all they are selling tray CPUs, and the TDP specs and the procedure for measuring Tcase was made to help making third parties thermal solutions.
    Intel retail warranties prohibit the use of after market HSF's. Anyone buying a tray of CPU's is an OEM customer and will likely have much different warranty terms. TDP values were published to assist OEM manufacturers when deciding on components. In certain cases it's impossible to use the stock solution, so alternatives have to be used.

    Intel's Warranty - CPUs - CPU-Components is someone who made the mistake of telling Intel he had used an after market cooler. They finally relented and gave him an RMA but they didn't have to.

    I'm quoting from my retail E7400 warranty leaflet here, I would have posted a pic but have no scanner or digi cam:
    "This Limited Warranty shall be null and void if the Intel processor that is the subject of this Limited Warranty is used with any heatsink/fan other than the one provided herewith."
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    Just ordered a Hyper 212+ and i will start my OC with a real cooler. There's no much point of experimenting with Intel stock cooler. So i guess my CPU VID will be more than ok to run 160BLCK with turbo ON. Maybe i will let it be since i will have better temps. Who knows maybe my CPU was built for speed. 160 x 20 = 3.2 , x 21 = 3.36, x24 = 3.84. I am guessing 1.3v for that clocks are more than enough and i dont have to worry about DVID and all the fuss. Maybe i will even disable c1e and let a balanced power plan on Win 7. I will report once i have it.

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    i would keep voltages the same and see how far you can go with the bclk,lower voltages mean lower temps
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazza300 View Post
    i would keep voltages the same and see how far you can go with the bclk,lower voltages mean lower temps
    Judging by this OC Settings And Clock Speed Table : Efficiency Explored: What's The Perfect Clock Rate For Your Core i5? i don't think i can go 160 without moving up from 1,2 volts. It will hit 3.8 with x24 Turbo and i am guessing 1.3v is a must there. So my CPU VID can handle that and if the hyper 212 lives up to the expectations i will have a nice and smooth OC.

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    depends on the chip,i could hit 3.8ghz on 1.18750v so maybe you could do the same or under 1.2v? you would need to test,i would still use dvid its just as stable as a fixed voltage amount imo but its up to you
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    Maybe... tomorrow is the judgment day, we will see. Judging by my CPU VID though (if in fact Intel burns it into the CPU) i can let it be at 1.3 and start overclocking it. If i see normal temps i will leave it that way maybe only change the Auto on CPU VCore to Normal to draw less. About the RAM i will go either 1600 CL8 or 1280 CL7. I was wondering about the DRAM Voltage, why is it listed Purple in the bios? Should i put 1.64v? Since 1.65 isn't an option and about the QPI/Vtt i will try to be as close to 0.5v.

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