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    Quote Originally Posted by susuchai View Post
    Just a wrap-up on what my situation and what I've done so far.

    Situation:
    1, Booted 21 month old computer and got the message of "WARNING: MAIN BIOS CHECKSUM ERROR...".
    2, Computer crashed while loading Windows and cannot boot after that.
    3, Attempt on booting only spins fans, gives LED signals, and reboots every 2 seconds. No beeps + blank screen. LED number 88 all the time.

    Specs (major ones):
    Gigabyte-EX58-Extreme Motherboard
    i7 920
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    ATI 4870x2 GPU (Dual GPU on 1 card)
    Corsair HX750W

    What I've attempted doing so far:
    1, Clearing CMOs by removing battery --> didn't help, same rebooting problem
    2, Clearing CMOs by using jumpers --> didn't help, same rebooting problem
    3, Booting computer with minimal settings (CPU + CPU Fan + 1 stick of ram + video card) on cardboard -- didn't help, same rebooting problem
    4, Booting computer with only CPU + CPU Fan + 1 stick of ram --> NO BEEP (supposed to beep if it doesn't detect video card) + same rebooting problem
    5, Replaced PSU with a brand new one --> didn't help, same rebooting problem
    6, Manually replacing main BIOs with secondary BIOs using lsdmeasap's method in another thread (holding case power button and turning backswitch of PSU) --> didn't help, same rebooting problem
    7, Checked CPU socket for bent pins --> cannot find any personally, will upload pictures later

    I actually searched the forum and saw quite a number of people who had the same situation. I tried every single suggestions that you guys suggested to them in those thread and none of them worked. The only thing I haven't tried is lsdmeasap's de-bricking motherboard method using a jumper tap on the main BIOs chip. I will also upload the CPU socket pictures asap, but I personally do not see any bent pins upon inspection.
    CPU socket looks fine, thanks!

    In regards to the quoted post:

    how long are you clearing the CMOS? Please do it this way and see if that helps. Unplug your PSU from the wall, or board, and then press and hold the case power on button for one minute. Then remove the battery for 8 hours or longer, while you sleep or while you are at work, so you are not tempted to try it sooner when you should be waiting :)

    Then connect it all back up and see if it will start.

    Debug code 88
    88 is dead CPU, but can also be dead/incompatible PSU or dead motherboard
    Gigabyte Award X58 BIOS LED Debug Codes

    Can you test with another CPU? When you tried a new PSU was it the same model/brand? Just wondering, and did you also test that new PSU on another system to be sure it was working?

    For #6, did you get the BIOS flash screen asking you to flash the main bios with backup? If not try that again a few more times, sometimes you have to time it just right. If this is failing it's very likely the CPU is dead I think.

    No need to short the BIOSes using that method, if you can't get the backup BIOS to kick in and flash the main with the switch method then shorting isn't going to help either I don't think.

    It wont hurt anything though, so you can try it for sure if you want. If you do please short using this method

    use fine tip needle nose tweezers and just short the 4+7 pins by hand, with electric tape on the tweezers of course.

    What happens is this, you short it and hold while starting the board. Then the board will fail to start in 2-5 seconds and reboot, keep holding, on second reboot it will start to load, once you see the BIOS screen you can remove the short and hit the end key to enter Qflash, this will start the BIOS recovery process and the MAIN BIOS will be flashed with the contents of the Backup BIOS.


    ALWAYS BE SURE YOU ARE SHORTING THE MAIN BIOS!!! DO NOT SHORT THE BACKUP BIOS!

    And of course always be sure you are shorting the correct pins and not touching others at the same time. Note the dots in the images, they will be the same on your chips and the MAIN/Backup BIOSes are clearly marked on the PCB


    I use fine tip tweezers, but you could also use bent paper clip or something similar (Electrical tape on them), both methods work every time once you get the hang of it and how to do it properly, sometimes the 5-6 pin method takes several attempts though.


    The board should power up, then shut down after a few seconds if the pins are shorted properly (Keep shorting), then when it reboots (Still shorting) it will show the splash screen or reboot again. Keep shorting until you see the splash screen which should be 2-3 reboots, then remove the short once you see the splash and enter the BIOS or Qflash and attempt to flash the BIOS from Qflash and it should start recovery due to checksum error.


    Quick run down of what I do using 4+7 method, I find this the easiest, quickest, and for sure way to recover. Method 5+6 sometimes takes several attempts


    1. Short the pins 4+7 and hold it.

    2. Start the board, it will reboot once or twice - Keep holding the short.

    3. After 1-2 reboots while holding the short you will eventually see the splash screen.

    4. Once you see the splash screen you can let go of the short and hit the Del key to go into the BIOS or END key to enter Qflash.

    5. Once in Qflash either flash the BIOS if it allows you, or it will automatically recover due to checksum error once you enter Qflash. (In order to do this you would need to put a USB Stick with a BIOS on it plugged in before you start this process.)

    6. If you enter BIOS instead of Qflash, from the BIOS enter Qflash then see step 5.

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    Thanks for the reply Lsdmeasap!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    how long are you clearing the CMOS? Please do it this way and see if that helps. Unplug your PSU from the wall, or board, and then press and hold the case power on button for one minute. Then remove the battery for 8 hours or longer, while you sleep or while you are at work, so you are not tempted to try it sooner when you should be waiting :)
    I've tried removing the battery for at least a day. I'll try using the way you described this time. For the part in bold, do you mean that I should immediately press and hold the power on button when I unplug the it from the wall (or in other words, unplug and press + hold while the power on button still has the blue glow)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Debug code 88

    Gigabyte Award X58 BIOS LED Debug Codes

    Can you test with another CPU? When you tried a new PSU was it the same model/brand? Just wondering, and did you also test that new PSU on another system to be sure it was working?
    I would have tested another CPU if any of my friends had a lga1366 CPU. The PSU that I tested with was the same model as before, but a brand new one. I haven't tested that PSU on any other boards though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    For #6, did you get the BIOS flash screen asking you to flash the main bios with backup? If not try that again a few more times, sometimes you have to time it just right. If this is failing it's very likely the CPU is dead I think.
    It didn't. It still gave me the same booting symptoms (no beep + blank screen). I'll try a couple more times with that method and see if anything comes up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    It wont hurt anything though, so you can try it for sure if you want. If you do please short using this method
    For the shorting method, technically I can just wrap a wire tightly around pins 4 + 7 and use that as the jumper to short it right?

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    No luck on getting it fixed :(.

    Anyhow, I kinda talked to a friend of mine about the situation and he wondered if it has to do with the MB battery. Would it be possible that it's the battery's fault?

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    Default Re: Gigabyte-EX58-Extreme Boot Error

    It can't hurt to try with a new mobo battery.
    Wrapping a wire around the pins isn't doable on the boards I've seen.
    You should be able to fabricate a high precision paperclip tool.
    It appears that jumpering the pins is matter of timing where the pins are momentarily connected just after booting.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte-EX58-Extreme Boot Error

    Quote Originally Posted by susuchai View Post
    Thanks for the reply Lsdmeasap!



    I've tried removing the battery for at least a day. I'll try using the way you described this time. For the part in bold, do you mean that I should immediately press and hold the power on button when I unplug the it from the wall (or in other words, unplug and press + hold while the power on button still has the blue glow)?



    I would have tested another CPU if any of my friends had a lga1366 CPU. The PSU that I tested with was the same model as before, but a brand new one. I haven't tested that PSU on any other boards though.



    It didn't. It still gave me the same booting symptoms (no beep + blank screen). I'll try a couple more times with that method and see if anything comes up.



    For the shorting method, technically I can just wrap a wire tightly around pins 4 + 7 and use that as the jumper to short it right?
    For your first question it doesn't matter, you'll be draining the power so it will work either way.

    You should try a different model or larger model power supply, just to rule that out.

    You can't use a wire wrap, it wouldn't hold the connection right. You need to use fine tipped tweezers, or a paper clip or something like that as mentioned above.

    Be sure you put electric tape on whatever you use, not sure how much voltage goes through there :)

    It need to be something like this because of the way you need to hold it, then release at certain times. So if you only tried with wire please try again with something else like what is mentioned above.

    I use these, they come from China so not sure if you want to wait that long, but I'm sure you can find some in your area or make a paper clip or something to use.
    SWDT-11ESD High Precision Anti-static Tweezers, Black Tweezers
    ESD7-SA High Precision Anti-static Curved Tips Tweezers, Black

    It should boot without the battery, so you could test that if you want, but I think if it was a bad battery it would boot anyway same as without one. Failed battery normally just causes settings to fail to be stored, it wouldn't cause a failure to boot.

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