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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    maybe 50gb? idk with linux,or use you old hdd as linux install?
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Scary, we're thinking alike.
    About 10 minutes after my last post, I decided to just use one of my old drives if/when I install Linux.

    My extended WD640 diagnostic test completes in about 30 minutes.
    The final test will be the destructive write-zeros-to-every-byte marathon test.
    Running it from DOS might take 8 hours or more.
    ***UPDATE*** The write zeros to the full drive (640GB) only took 90 minutes under w2k.
    I could run this test from windows, but I have two identical WD640 drives on the backup system. Even though I know for sure which is which, if I did make a mistake, my working drive would be wiped clean. It's much safer for me to disconnect my old drive and when I boot from the dos floppy, I'll simply do a DIR C: command to verify that the drive is the new, unformated drive.

    How does Murphy's Law go....
    Whatever can possibly go wrong will,
    at the worst possible time,
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    This post will contain the steps that will be followed.
    Possible ominous note: This is the 13th post, do I feel lucky? You betcha!!!
    This post will be updated from time to time.
    • New operating system install on SSD
    • Current HDD for all other files, including My Documents, media files, data files, games, demos, etc.

    1. Verify SSD is recognized by the bios. [done]
    2. Check SSD SMART status. [done]
    3. Download software tools to read the entire drive. No writing will be performed. [done]
    4. Run Secure Erase if needed.
    5. Verify if SSD firmware is up to date before formatting and installing the operating system.
    6. Update firmware if required.


    to be added to the list:
    • Load a saved bios profile that has a non-overclocked, stable bios configuration using stock settings.
    • Set bios SATA/RAID MODE = AHCI
    • Prepare usb drive or floppy for required "F6" install during o/s installation


    more later, it's been a long day
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    RAID is best, and does support TRIM for single non-member drives.

    No floppy needed, install windows 7 without drivers and then once done install Intel RST. (You can load drivers during the install if you want though)

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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Why use raid if standard AHCI seems to be as good, using the standard msahci driver?
    Or is there something I missed?

    One more thing is that the ocz tools won't work with the 10.0 rst's. (will with 9.6 or msahci)
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    RAID is faster, and the Intel driver is better for sure (Both Intel AHCI and or RAID drivers)

    9.6 or 10.x RST is up to you guys, I'm just suggesting that it's best to run single drives in RAID mode with the Intel drivers, and that 9.6 or above supports TRIM in that configuration.

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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    I tested it again on fresh w7 install on hdd using the ssd for test, just to be sure, but there was virtually no difference between ms-ahci, intel-achi or intel-raid with atto.

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    - I5-2500k [3148C059], cooled by scythe mugen2 rev.b with 1500rpm pwm-fan on cpufan header.
    - 8G(2x4G) Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9W,Low profile/Low voltage, DDR1600/C9-1.35v. Slots 1&2.
    - 16G(4x4G) Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 1333 @ 2133-c11. w1.55v

    - Seasonic M12D SS850-EM , 850W Semi-Modular PSU with 80A at 12V.
    - 2x EVGA GeForce GTX285-1GB in SLi, 4x 6pin power and bridge connected.[PCIEX_16 and PCIEX_8]
    - Hauppauge HVR2200 PCIE 1x tv-tuner card.[PCIEX1_3]
    - Intel controller in raid mode.
    - 2x WD 500G blacks in raid0 on intel port 0-1.
    - 1x WD 1000G black on intel port 2.
    - 1x OCZ Vertex2 (32nm) on intel port 3.
    - 1x Optiarc DVDRW on intel port 4.
    - 1x Samsung 500G on marvell port 0.
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    - 17" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, upper HDMI port.
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    - internal spdif header connected to Geforce 0.
    - front usb connected.
    - front ac97 connected.
    - front cardreader (usb) connected.
    - rear 4x usb bracket.
    - ms media keyboard, ms comfort mouse. usb, wired.
    - w7x64-sp1.



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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Try other benchmarks like AS SSD and CDM too. Of course that isn't going to go over well with your sandforce drive, so I guess that wouldn't be a good way for you to test. If I find time later I'll do it on a C300 for you.

    I've always found it to be a little better myself, in benchmarks and actual feel of the system, but it's always a small amount so not really nothing to be concerned one way or the other.

    Also, looks like your last two tests are both with iaStor driver not iaAHCI/iaStor?

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    On the second one the controller is in ahci mode as you can see, and I just clean installed intel rst 9.6 packet. It gave me the driver you see for that controller mode, it appears to be the same it uses on the raid mode. There was no option to pick anything else on this "STOR_allOS_9.6.0.1014_PV.exe" packet, but I'll check the zipped release and look for iaAHCI...

    CDM is not really playing nice with sandforce as you know but I did do some small 5x50mb testing when I first got it, and it was also about the same across modes. sometimes I still do 1x50 just to check what's going on, it's slower than fresh ofcourse but that was to be expected but after some use it nicely settled at normal speeds for sandforce. I'm not too afraid to regularly trash it a bit ;) it's there to be used and it will have to live with my usage pattern, a bit more than what ocz find normal but not many times more ;) ...
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    - I5-2500k [3148C059], cooled by scythe mugen2 rev.b with 1500rpm pwm-fan on cpufan header.
    - 8G(2x4G) Corsair Vengeance LP CML8GX3M2A1600C9W,Low profile/Low voltage, DDR1600/C9-1.35v. Slots 1&2.
    - 16G(4x4G) Samsung M378B5273DH0-CH9 1333 @ 2133-c11. w1.55v

    - Seasonic M12D SS850-EM , 850W Semi-Modular PSU with 80A at 12V.
    - 2x EVGA GeForce GTX285-1GB in SLi, 4x 6pin power and bridge connected.[PCIEX_16 and PCIEX_8]
    - Hauppauge HVR2200 PCIE 1x tv-tuner card.[PCIEX1_3]
    - Intel controller in raid mode.
    - 2x WD 500G blacks in raid0 on intel port 0-1.
    - 1x WD 1000G black on intel port 2.
    - 1x OCZ Vertex2 (32nm) on intel port 3.
    - 1x Optiarc DVDRW on intel port 4.
    - 1x Samsung 500G on marvell port 0.
    - 24" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, lower HDMI port.
    - 17" LCD monitor @ Geforce 0, upper HDMI port.
    - 19" LCD tv @ intel/onboard HDMI.
    - 4ch analoge speakers, cambridge dtt set.
    - internal spdif header connected to Geforce 0.
    - front usb connected.
    - front ac97 connected.
    - front cardreader (usb) connected.
    - rear 4x usb bracket.
    - ms media keyboard, ms comfort mouse. usb, wired.
    - w7x64-sp1.



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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Yes, I see that, but you have the RAID driver loaded for both.

    Ya if you want to test the AHCI driver you need to grab the Pre-install files, or extract it from the RST program installer.

    Ya CMD or AS SSD is not nice with sandforce, but at least you can set CMD to all ones or zero's although I';m not sure if that will help sandforce or not?

    If you've always been comparing AHCI Vs RAID with the RAID drive that may be why you are not seeing any difference, there is but it's not huge or anything.

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