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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Thanks, I'll give it a try once I install ZoneAlarm (firewall only).
    Both machines are in the same work group, but I had win 7 set up for a home group.
    My problem might be related to something with windows defender/firewall settings.
    Both systems are sending/receiving packets, but I can't access shared partitions.

    My bigger current problem is the win 7 wireless usb suddenly isn't working properly. It has limited internet connect-ability but none of the browsers work. Swapping the identical wireless usb modules didn't help. Deleting and re-installing the drivers made no difference. I think that I up-gemucked something while trying to connect my systems.

    When both systems ran w2k, I merely configured ZoneAlarm on each system to allow the self-assigned 169.xxx.xxx.xxx ip address on the other machine.

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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Ya, I use network too on Vista, XP, and Win7 in my house without any issues.

    Just make sure they all have the same workgroup name and then any difficulties would be due to a firewall on one end or the other.

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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Minor update:
    I deleted the 260.99 Nvidia drivers to try the "original" 259.22 drivers.
    Re-booted into safe mode to run Driver Sweeper to clean up any residue.
    Booting into windows, I was greeted with an all black screen with no apparent activity from the case's hdd indicator light. Pressing ctrl + alt + delete gave me a standard light blue win7 screen with several options, none of which would help.

    I restored my system state from a two day old restore point and now my browsers work fine.
    Somehow I must have up-gemucked something.
    Next step is to disable win 7 defender and firewall and install ZoneAlarm firewall to see if both of my systems will share files.
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    My second OCZ Agility2 hard drive just arrived for my other system, $90 after mail in rebate.
    If you're interested, Newegg.com - OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5&#34; 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive &#40;SSD&#41; is available for $115 ($100 after MIR) until January 31st. Nice buy if you need 50K IOPs instead of 10K IOPs.

    Update after 30 days:

    • WEI ssd scores = 7.6 to 7.7
    • WEI graphics scores = 7.3 (stock 780/3600MHz) and 7.5 (o/c = 900/400MHz).
    • System performance is much faster than the w2k setup.
    • Using the same hardware, wireless maximum sustained download speeds are often 3 - 4 times faster; averaging about 1.2MB/sec and up to 1.9MB/sec.
    • Only 24GB is used on the SSD boot drive, which includes 4GB pagefile.sys and 3GB Hiberfil.sys files.
    • 32GB of free space is available.
    • System Indexing is enabled but the INDEXER folder was moved off of the boot drive.
    • Windows search feature is very, very fast.
    • I still need to disable all unneeded windows processes. (If ain't broke, don't fix it!!)

    The following folders were moved from the boot drive to the first partition on the hard drive:
    • C:\TEMP and C:\TMP folders
    • C:\USERS\xxxxx\DOWNLOADS folder
    • Temporary Internet Files folder
    • Indexer folder (about 400MB)
    The My Documents folder is NEVER kept on my boot drive.

    All of my large graphics benchmark software applications are installed on the hard drive.
    All partitions on the 640GB hard drive are 4K aligned using Paragon's Partition Alignment tool.

    Prior to this SSD/win7 upgrade all of my Western Digital Caviar Black hard drives had similar performance.
    The WD640 drive benchmark scores used to be about 3% faster than the WD750 and WD1TB drives.

    The following ATTO benchmarks were performed with all drives connected to my system.
    The WD1TB drive was connected via eSata from a Rosewill external enclosure and seems to have taken a minor performance hit.
    With 4K partition alignment, the WD640 drive is now about 20 -22% faster than the non-aligned hard drives.

    Thanks again for everyone's help and suggestions.

    (right click on the benchmarks image and copy it into your image viewing program to zoom and read the details)

    new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)-atto-p35-ocz_c-ssd-wd640-wd750-wd1tb-caviar-black-hdd-results-256colors-jpg60-1024w-sharpe-jpg
    Last edited by profJim; 01-28-2011 at 10:31 AM. Reason: more information
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    ProfJim,
    Good to see you are moving into the W7 SSD world. I wish I would have dialed in sooner to this thread since I think, as usual, I have stumbled into almost every issue/problem available.

    I along with a few hundred other people finally got Paragon to fix their free alignment tool so that it worked on all my machines. But... I did not bother to run any before and after benchmarks on the WD 500, 640 and 750GB HDD. Good to see that it made them faster!

    I got caught up in the "SSD early adopters" stuff and have moved as much of the boot disk write files and folders to a 150GB Raptor Drive. That included the User folders, Windows Temp folders, Swap File, some program installs that are used infrequently (ex. Turbo Tax) and lastly all the W7 Log files! I also let SSD Tweaker do what ever it wanted to make W7 get along better with the SSD dirve.

    About the only real problem I encountered with the GSkill SSD drive was giong from Fimware version 2.1 to 3.1. It seems the Sandforce firmware update tools are somewhat error prone. Anyway, I found that if I do the firmware update from an old version of W7 on a HDD the Sandfore update seems to work as advertised.

    After all the above, it appears that the Sandforce SSD firmware and W7 software has gotten much better at recovering space on the SSD and I probably did not have to move all the disk write stuff to the Raptor since the SSD drive may out last me before it gets worn out! Comments please.

    P.S. I have used every version of Windows along the way and W7 is the best yet - even though I sold my MSFT stock when they discontinued MSMoney and don't seem to want to upgrade Window Home Server - Vail with all the good stuff in the original version of WHS. I have not had any networking issues between W7, WHS, WinXP, and VISTA but then I'm going thru a gigabit switch.
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    The newest SSD came with firmware version 1.24 and the original SSD came with version 1.25. Connecting the second SSD as an additional drive in my win7 system, I used windows to format the new SSD using all available space. Checking with Paragon's Partition Alignment Tool showd that the new drive was 4K aligned.

    I used the OCZToolbox_Release1.28 software to update the firmware to the new SSD within windows. A different procedure is required to update the firmware for an SSD boot drive outside of the windows environment.

    Partition Alignment Tool v:2.0 (10.0.2.1651) worked fine when one partition at time was 4K aligned on the WD640 HDD. It failed to perform partition alignment when I tried to align all of the HDD partitions at the same time.

    I've removed the Hiberfil.sys file from the boot drive and moved the 4GB pagefile.sys to the first partition on the hard drive and reduced the 4GB size to 2GB. Waking from SLEEP mode using the front case on/off switch is no problem.

    Currently my SSD has 18.6GB of used space and 37.2GB of free space. I decided not to move the USERS folder to the hard drive because FireFox now loads 50 - 60 tabs in one third of time it took to load under w2k. I still might try to move the FireFox Cache folder to the hard drive once I figure out how to do this. FireFox is my primary browser.

    My only complaint with win7 is that I haven't figured out how to search folders with multiple qualifiers such as *.zip and *.rar or using multiple partial file names.

    Attached is an ATTO benchmark of the new SSD using queue depth = 4 and 10.

    new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)-ocz-ssd-agility2-2-atto-benchmark-qd-4-qd-10-results-png
    Last edited by profJim; 02-03-2011 at 07:05 PM. Reason: spelling
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    For Firefox Cache location, enter about:config

    Then create a new String entry labeled "browser.cache.disk.parent_directory " and then set the location.

    Benches look good man!

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    Thumbs up Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Thanks for the help, I'll give it a try.
    Yep, the SSD performance is just a bit better than half-fast. ;)

    ***EDIT** I couldn't find about:config in the TOOLS --> OPTIONS menu.
    When I typed about:config in the address bar and pressed the ENTER key, everything was okie-dokie.
    Got a good chuckle with the This might void your warranty! message.
    I went ahead and clicked on the I'll be careful, I promise! tab.

    new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)-firefox-ill-careful-png
    Last edited by profJim; 02-04-2011 at 03:11 PM.
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    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
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    Default Re: new SSD: OCZ Agility2 60GB (Extended Capacity)

    Hey PJ,
    Im wondering what is the reasoning on moving the pagefile to the slower disc?
    Ive left mine on the ssd (2gb when I have 8gb dram in,4 Gb with 4 in)
    I have the OS and WoW on the ssd leaves 13gb+ free.
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    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
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    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
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