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    Red face Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Hi all,

    I'm having a nightmare getting my GA-H57M-USB3 to be stable. Ever since I put it together it has been randomly crashing out of windows 7 at least once a day. Sometimes when under load, other times just browsing the web.

    I've tried optimised settings in the bios but then it won't get past the flying windows screen, restarts every time. It will go into windows with the fail safe settings, but i've then got the one-a-day crashing. Really need a stable system, am tearing my hair out with this one - and i've not got a lot of hair to tear !

    I've already replaced the integrated graphics with a seperate card, but that didn't fix it. I've just fitted a new power supply in case that was the problem, but that didn't fix it either. Please can you help ?

    Setup is...
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

    My bios settings are currently fail safe as shown below...

    Advanced Frequency Settings:

    CPU Clock Ratio 25x

    Advanced Core Features [Press Enter]:

    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech................[Auto]
    CPU Cores Enabled........................[All]
    CPU Multi-Threading......................[Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................[Auto]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support...................[Auto]
    CPU Thermal Monitor......................[Auto]
    CPU EIST Function........................[Auto]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT...................[Auto]

    QPI Clock Ratio..........................[Auto]
    QPI Link Speed........................[6.4GHz]
    Uncore Clock Ratio....................[] can't find?
    Uncore Frequency.........................MHz can't find?

    >>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<<

    Base Clock (BCLK) Control................[Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency ..........................[133]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[Auto]
    Memory Frequency (MHz)...............1333 1333 (10x)
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz)..............[Auto]
    C.I.A.2..................................[] can't find?

    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<

    CPU Clock Drive..........................[ 900mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive..................[ 900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew...........................[ 0ps]

    Advanced Memory Settings:

    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[Auto]
    Memory Frequency (MHz)................1333 1333
    Performance Enhance (SPD)............. [Turbo]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)............ [Auto]
    Profile DDR Voltage .................. 1.5V
    Profile QPI Voltage .................. 1.1V
    Channel Interleaving.....................[] can't find?
    Rank Interleaving........................[] can't find?

    >>>>> Channel A & B

    Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]:
    Cas Latency Time........................[9] Auto
    tRCD....................................[9] Auto
    tRP.....................................[9] Auto
    tRAS...................................[24] Auto

    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control

    tRC...................................34[Auto]
    tRRD...................................5[Auto]
    tWTR...................................5[Auto]
    tWR....................................10[Auto]
    tWTP...................................21[Auto]
    tWL....................................7[Auto]
    tRFC...................................74[Auto]
    tRTP...................................5[Auto]
    tFAW...................................25[Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD)......................1[Auto]

    >>>>> Misc Timing Control

    B2B Cas Delay..........................[Auto] can't find?
    Round Trip Latency.....................[Auto] can't find?

    Channel A Turnaround Settings [Press Enter]:
    Different DIMMs........................[Auto] can't find?
    Different DIMMs........................[Auto] can't find?
    On The Same Rank.......................[Auto] can't find?

    >>>>> Channel A Writes Followed By Writes

    Different DIMMs........................[Auto] can't find?
    Different DIMMs........................[Auto] can't find?
    On The Same Rank.......................[Auto] can't find?


    Advanced Voltage Settings:

    ******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
    Voltage Types............Normal......Current
    --------------------------------------------

    >>> CPU
    Load Line Calibration...................[Auto]
    CPU Vcore..................1.23125v..[Auto]
    QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[Auto]

    >>> MCH/ICH
    PCH Core....................1.050v.....[Auto]
    CPU PLL......................1.800v.....[Auto]

    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage..............1.500v.....[Auto]
    DRAM Termination.........0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]


    Miscellaneous Settings:[/SIZE]

    Isochronous Support....................[Enabled]
    Virtualisation technology..............[Enabled]
    USB Storage Detect ....................[Enabled] Located In Integrated Peripherals Page

    Thanks, Rick.
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Quick update...

    Managed to get it a bit more stable. I found that it wouldn't go into windows with the optimal settings. But I noticed that the optimal setting changed the bclock up to 160. So I used the optimal settings and then changed the bclock back down to 140. It then goes into windows but still crashed a couple of times a day.

    So i've now upped the QPI voltage to 1.2v and the cpu core to 1.25v. Also turned off the cpu turbo mode. It now crashes only once per day under load.

    Any other ideas please to get a stable system. I've always had Asus boards and AMD chips before and never had stability issues. Kind of wishin i'd have stuck with them rather than trying the giga / intel combo.

    Thanks
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    What speed do you want to run the CPU?

    Optimal BIOS settings didn't set Bclk 160, that happened because you enabled XMP I would assume. I'd advise you not use XMP and set the memory yourself manually.

    Let us know what speed you want to run the CPU and memory and then we can give you some settings.

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Hi, and thanks for the reply.

    You're probably right about the 160 bclck, XMP was also enabled so could have been that.

    As much as I like to push the cpu a little, i'm happy enough to run it at stock 3.33GHz as long as it's stable. It's mainly the wife that uses this pc for music production so stability is the most important factor.

    Same for the memory, i'd be happy if I could get it running at the 9-9-9-24 1600 that it's rated at if possible.

    Thanks for your help, Rick.
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Cool, then try these out and see how things go.

    This is stock CPU, but memory on 1600Mhz

    Code:
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech................[Auto]
    CPU Cores Enabled........................[All]
    CPU Multi-Threading......................[Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................[Auto]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support...................[Auto]
    CPU Thermal Monitor......................[Auto]
    CPU EIST Function........................[Auto]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT...................[Auto]
    
    QPI Clock Ratio..........................[Auto]
    QPI Link Speed........................[6.4GHz]
    Uncore Clock Ratio....................[] can't find?
    Uncore Frequency.........................MHz can't find?
    
    >>>>> Standard Clock Control <<<<<
    
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control................[Disabled]
    BCLK Frequency ..........................[133]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[Auto] Expert
    Memory Frequency (MHz)...............1333 1333 (10x)  << Set x12
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz)..............[Auto]
    C.I.A.2..................................[] can't find?
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control <<<<<
    
    CPU Clock Drive..........................[ 900mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive..................[ 900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew...........................[ 0ps]
    
    Advanced Memory Settings:
    
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)..........[Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)...........[Auto]  << Set x12 for 1600Mhz memory
    Memory Frequency (MHz)................1333 1333
    Performance Enhance (SPD)............. [Turbo]  << Extreme may be best
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)............ [Auto]  << Set expert here, then set each channel main timings and command rate as noted below
    Profile DDR Voltage .................. 1.5V
    Profile QPI Voltage .................. 1.1V
    Channel Interleaving.....................[] can't find?
    Rank Interleaving........................[] can't find?
    
    >>>>> Channel A & B
    
    Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]:
    Cas Latency Time........................[9] 
    tRCD....................................[9]
    tRP.....................................[9]
    tRAS...................................[24] 
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control
    
    tRC...................................34[Auto]
    tRRD...................................5[Auto]
    tWTR...................................5[Auto]
    tWR....................................10[Auto]
    tWTP...................................21[Auto]
    tWL....................................7[Auto]
    tRFC...................................74[Auto]
    tRTP...................................5[Auto]
    tFAW...................................25[Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD)......................1[Auto]   Set 1T
    
    >>>>> Misc Timing Control
    Advanced Voltage Settings:
    
    ******Mother Board Voltage Control ******
    Voltage Types............Normal......Current
    --------------------------------------------
    
    >>> CPU
    Load Line Calibration...................[Auto]
    CPU Vcore..................1.23125v..[Auto]
    QPI/VTT Voltage..........1.100v.....[Auto]  << Set 1.15-1.25 (May need more depending on your CPU, up to 1.3-1.35 may be need, but not likely)
    
    >>> MCH/ICH
    PCH Core....................1.050v.....[Auto]
    CPU PLL......................1.800v.....[Auto]
    
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage..............1.500v..... set 1.66
    DRAM Termination.........0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-A Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]
    Ch-B Data VRef............0.750v.....[Auto]

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    That's great, thanks for your help.

    I'll give them a go tonight and see if it's stable.

    Cheers, Rick.
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Hi,

    I've tried the settings and so far so good thanks. Am in windows running prime95 just as a check.

    I couldn't get the memory to 1600 though as the system memory multiplier doesn't give me the option of x12. The choices are auto, 6, 8, 10. So I went for auto for now, which seems to be 10 as it's running at 1333.

    Will keep you posted on how it goes.

    Thanks again, Rick.
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Nice to hear, if you start getting BSOD's or instability you'll need to run stability tests to find what the issue is so you can tweak things a little bit.

    You should run stability tests for sure anyway. Ohh, and sorry I didn't know your CPU was limited to x10 memory multi, so at 1333MHz you can probably run 888-20 or 777-24 instead of what I put previously.

    Or, if you leave it at 999 then you can probably use less memory voltage and a QPI/Vtt on the lower end of things.

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    Default Re: Giga GA-H57M-USB3 instability

    Well it's now been 3 weeks with the settings that Lsdmeasap helpfully provided. In that time there have been NO CRASHES ! Yey ! I was getting one forced shutdown per day, now it seems as stable as anything.

    Thank you Lsdmeasap very much for all your help :)
    m/b - Gigabyte GA-H57M-USB3
    ram - Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 (2 x 2GB) CMX4GX3M2A1600C9
    cpu - Intel I5-660 3.33GHz
    psu - Corsair TX CMPSU-650TXUK 650W
    gpu - 512MB Sapphire HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 600MHz, 80 Cores

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