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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    376MHz FSB with 2.66D SMM will run DDR-1000, but CPU at 2.63GHz which will need some more vcore and VTT, if temps under load permits it than it should not be a problem.
    Try with CPU Ratio x6 first to see if there's any gain of memory performance.
    Note that timings change with DDR rate so leave tRFC auto.
    Temperrures for Prime95 under 70c are ok, monitor temps using Core Temp or RealTemp.

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Thanks profjim Nice info, again... :) I'm trying 400 Mhz FSB, system couldn't boot with static tread value:7. But I'm not sure how Driving Strength profile works, they are at 1066 even though my rams run at 800. Should I change them? Here are my latest results. Good improvement...



    Now I'm testing my system with Prime95 after memtested it with 2 passes just to see if it worked. Interesting but Windows WEI didn't change :7.1
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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Try multipliers 2.00B/2.00D and driving strengths, maybe you'll be able to lower tRD.
    You may also need more VTT(CPU Termination) 1.22-1.28v. This voltage with CPU/MCH references control the logic of the bus and usually need to be increased at high FSB.

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    My cpu termination is set at 1.20. And 5 hours of prime95 w/o errors. Should I increase it anyway?
    There are really many variables that should be taken into account. As I get more info from you, new questions arise :) like, what is the difference between 2B and 2D multipliers? or what are driving strengths and which one should be used? But I don't wanna bother you, I'll look for the answers in the forum. Remember the thread, and how far we advanced past the not working memories to good performing ones! ;)

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Try 1.24VTT see if it make any change to memory performance, if not leave as it is since you already stress tested it.
    The different straps and driving strengths are different presets for values we don't deal with and some we may not have access to.
    You are not the first one that was sucked into tweaking beyond his initial intent :)

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Some general guidelines:
    • The D-memory strap (2.00D, 2.66D, and 3.33D) should only be used with FSB = 400MHz and higher.
    • With P45 mobos, using the D-strap from 400 to about 470MHz requires tRD (Static tRead Value) to be set 1 click higher compared with the B-strap at the same FSB setting.
    • Some find that it's easier to get a stable setup when using the D-strap instead of the B-strap.
    • Some have problems with FSB = 400, try a little lower or higher (399 or 401).
    • Driving Strength settings sometimes help stability. I usually set this one step higher than my memory speed, where I use D/S = 1066 with memory speeds up to about 900MHz memory speeds.
    • Cpu Termination (VTT) should generally be at least 0.05 volts less than Cpu Vcore.
    • tRD that is too low is one of the main causes of boot loop failures.
    Please include bios settings including FSB, cpu multiplier, and memory multiplier/strap when you post MaxxMem2 results.
    If you have a problem with a test setting, post the full bios template along with the specific problem description.
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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Please include bios settings including FSB, cpu multiplier, and memory multiplier/strap when you post MaxxMem2 results.
    If you have a problem with a test setting, post the full bios template along with the specific problem description.
    One last question. Should I disable CPU EIST and C1E as I'm using the lowest cpu multiplier now? In fact I don't wanna oc my system and I'm satisfied with the current results of my rams. My last settings are like that: 6x400 Cpu, 2.0B 4-4-4-12, static tread 8, vcore : 1.28125V, cpu termination 1.24V, MCH 1.28 and dram voltage 2.1V. Result: A happy user of gigabyte :) My next rig will be an all-in-one pc, so gigabyte should get into business real quick :)
    GA-EP45-DS3R Gigabyte mobo (f11e)
    Q6600 Intel cpu @stock 2400 with Scythe Zipang Cooler
    2x2 gb Mushkin 996599 Kit, 2x2 gb Kingston HyperX KHX8500D2K2/4G kit
    Powercolor ATI Radeon HD4850 PCS+ 512 Mb
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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    C1E and EIST are meaningless with your current settings as you are using the lowest multiplier and setting vcore manually.

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    That's good to know. thank you ;)
    GA-EP45-DS3R Gigabyte mobo (f11e)
    Q6600 Intel cpu @stock 2400 with Scythe Zipang Cooler
    2x2 gb Mushkin 996599 Kit, 2x2 gb Kingston HyperX KHX8500D2K2/4G kit
    Powercolor ATI Radeon HD4850 PCS+ 512 Mb
    OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb (Boot drive)
    3x HD502HJ Samsung 500 Gb HDDs
    Seasonic S12 550W PSU
    Philips DVD Writer

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    Default Re: Mushkin 4Gb ram kits and Kingston HyperX Kits gives error at memtest86+ on EP45-D

    Hi again. Yesterday I experienced this, after I put the system in sleep and tried to wake it up it stuck in an endless boot loop. It started to boot every 2-3 seconds (no display on screen). I just unlugged the system, waited some minutes and tried again; it booted successfully. This is weird after all those stability testings gone well. What could be wrong? My settings in BIOS seems to be unchanged. Any idea? Or was that a rare random issue?
    GA-EP45-DS3R Gigabyte mobo (f11e)
    Q6600 Intel cpu @stock 2400 with Scythe Zipang Cooler
    2x2 gb Mushkin 996599 Kit, 2x2 gb Kingston HyperX KHX8500D2K2/4G kit
    Powercolor ATI Radeon HD4850 PCS+ 512 Mb
    OCZ Vertex 2 60 Gb (Boot drive)
    3x HD502HJ Samsung 500 Gb HDDs
    Seasonic S12 550W PSU
    Philips DVD Writer

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